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Obama's Red Line...
DrafterX Offline
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It turns out that Barack Obama does indeed have a line in the sand – and it’s the WikiLeaks dumps that are battering Hillary Clinton’s campaign, and damaging to his legacy.

In a recent interview with "Meet the Press" anchor Chuck Todd, Joe Biden said that the U.S. would launch a “secret” cyber counter-attack against Russia in retaliation for their hacking into the DNC and other individual email accounts.

That threat may have translated into John Kerry asking Ecuador, which is hosting Julian Assange in their UK embassy, to sever the WikiLeaks head’s Internet connection. Ecuador has announced that it did remove Assange’s access to the web; the State Department has denied involvement.

Because WikiLeaks has numerous back-ups, the cut-off hasn’t slowed the steady release of embarrassing revelations about Clinton and her campaign.

If that is the sum total of Obama’s retaliatory repertoire, it is no wonder the Russians are acting with impunity around the globe.

If Biden is right, President Obama is moved to confront Russia not over hundreds of thousands being slaughtered in Syria – not because of the barrel bombs or chlorine gas – nor over Russia’s takeover of Crimea from Ukraine, with whom we have a security treaty.

He is not inspired by Russia selling a missile defense system to Iran over U.S. opposition, guaranteeing the security of Tehran’s inevitable nuclear program.

He is unmoved by Russian threats to shoot down our airplanes and their attacks on U.S. allies in Syria.

None of those insults and aggressions has moved our president. Instead, he is teed off that the Russians may be the source of embarrassing email leaks – leaks that confirm, for instance, that Obama lied when he said he didn’t know anything about Hillary Clinton’s private email server. (He had been regularly communicating with her via the Clintonemail.com address, using an alias.) Or that his White House did not police Hillary Clinton trolling for dollars from foreign governments while she was Secretary of State.

Well, everyone has a tipping point.

Film at 11..... Not talking
teedubbya Offline
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I thought a crime was a crime and worth stopping or punishing at all cost....
DrafterX Offline
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you're right... unfortunately for him pursuing this one might uncover more stuff about himself... Mellow
cacman Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
I thought a crime was a crime and worth stopping or punishing at all cost....

Unless you're a Democrat running for office.
DrafterX Offline
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ya.. then high crimes are called good politics... Mellow
ZRX1200 Offline
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This is the most transparent administration ever.

And you can keep your doctor
frankj1 Offline
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we are truly blessed to have the morally superior GOP.
riverdog Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
we are truly blessed to have the morally superior GOP.

Not a day goes by that I don't say the same thing. Well maybe a couple of days.... Ok, ok I've never said that...... d'oh!
tonygraz Offline
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What would we be without GOP family values ?
riverdog Offline
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tonygraz wrote:
What would be be without GOP family values ?

There'd be a lotta womb rippin goin on.
banderl Offline
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tonygraz wrote:
What would be be without GOP family values ?



Five kids from three different women?
If Obama did that we would of heard about it everyday for the past eight years.
tonygraz Offline
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riverdog wrote:
There'd be a lotta womb rippin goin on.


Trump or doctor type ?
Burner02 Offline
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Did not know gerbils traveled in packs.

But there they are.
riverdog Offline
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tonygraz wrote:
Trump or doctor type ?

Heheheh, both.
riverdog Offline
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Burner02 wrote:
Did not know gerbils traveled in packs.

But there they are.

Hey, Frank snapped there for a second. We had to come back for him.fog
frankj1 Offline
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now Burner, you know me by now...just trying to remind all the right wingers to stop imagining their preferred political heroes are somehow purer.

fair play, no?
ZRX1200 Offline
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Heros?!!!!


LMMFPWAO.....

frankj1 Offline
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so then what's all the holier than though noise all about from the right?
DrafterX Offline
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I think we're just trying to keep a criminal out of the oval office... morals be damned and stuff... Mellow
Burner02 Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
now Burner, you know me by now...just trying to remind all the right wingers to stop imagining their preferred political heroes are somehow purer.

fair play, no?



You were not originally included but you could be in the future.


Just saying.
frankj1 Offline
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Burner02 wrote:
You were not originally included but you could be in the future.


Just saying.

ok...I guess?

HA!

anyway, you know what I meant...plenty of immorality and criminals on each side that it bugs me when the right stakes out higher ground.
DrafterX Offline
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man I hate defending Trump.. but are you referring to him as a criminal also..?? or just Republicans in the past in general..?? Huh
Burner02 Offline
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Find the bodies and you have your answer.
banderl Offline
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Burner02 wrote:
Did not know gerbils traveled in packs.

But there they are.



I heard that Richard Gere taught you everything he knows about gerbils.
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DrafterX wrote:
man I hate defending Trump.. but are you referring to him as a criminal also..?? or just Republicans in the past in general..?? Huh


i applaud you for wasting your breath my friend
Burner02 Offline
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banderl wrote:
I heard that Richard Gere taught you everything he knows about gerbils.



I would not know. I don't do gerbil.
Speyside Offline
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After yesterday's cyber attack Obama's retaliation attack is sounding better to me.
frankj1 Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
man I hate defending Trump.. but are you referring to him as a criminal also..?? or just Republicans in the past in general..?? Huh

past and present dems and reps equally. criminals and/or immoral folks galore. neither should be claiming purity and morality as theirs exclusive of the other side. Nothing specifically to do with Trump.
banderl Offline
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Burner02 wrote:
I would not know. I don't do gerbil.



Not what Richard Gere stated.
jjanecka Offline
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Richard Gere shoves hamsters sopped with cocaine up his bum.
riverdog Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
past and present dems and reps equally. criminals and/or immoral folks galore. neither should be claiming purity and morality as theirs exclusive of the other side. Nothing specifically to do with Trump.

........but, Trump is something of an over achiever. Herfing
Burner02 Offline
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banderl wrote:
Not what Richard Gere stated.



Simply means someone is not telling the truth.
DrafterX Offline
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I dunno.. how does Not having a State Dept and FBI investigation on you and your cronies make you morally superior..?? I mean it's just the facts.. Did anyone every use those words..?? Maybe we can get Trump to lie to the FBI and stuff to equal things up again... Think
teedubbya Offline
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All he really needs to do is talk to them.
DrafterX Offline
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maybe they'll find a reason... I'm sure they're looking... Mellow
gummy jones Offline
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well hes mean and jerky some times and has an orangeish tone so what could be wose fog
DrafterX Offline
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That Johnson guy... Mellow
Buckwheat Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
I thought a crime was a crime and worth stopping or punishing at all cost....


You must be referring to the stealing of confidential e-mails and stuff. Sarcasm
DrafterX Offline
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But the Hillary camp is saying they're all fabricated... can you steal fabricated emails..?? they would have to admit the info was true right..?? Think
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After Democratic Party boss Donna Brazile claimed emails showing her apparently tipping off Hillary Clinton to questions at a March town hall were “doctored,” tech sleuths got to work -- and now say they've found proof the emails are authentic.

Fox News' Megyn Kelly questioned Brazile last week about an email that surfaced in hacked messages from Campaign Chairman John Podesta’s account. The email, posted by WikiLeaks and attributed to Brazile, passed on a question to campaign adviser Jennifer Palmieri about the death penalty, under the subject line: “From time to time I get questions in advance.”

The exchange came right before a March town hall hosted by CNN and TV One, where a similar question was asked. Yet Brazile denied receiving questions from CNN.

"I have seen so many doctored emails. I have seen things that come from me at 2 in the morning that I don't even send,” she said, adding, "I will not sit here and be persecuted, because your information is totally false.”

However, tech blog Errata Security quickly found the email in question could be verified using an everyday verification program.

DomainKeys Identified Mail (DKIM) is a system employed by many email servers, including HillaryClinton.com, to verify emails to recipients and avoid spam filters. The system sends a DKIM "key" to the receiver to verify the sender and confirm the email hasn’t been tampered with.

Consequently, bloggers ran the DKIM keys included in this and other emails through verification software, which in turn validated the Palmieri email as both real and undoctored. The Daily Caller also ran a similar test and got the same result.

In a blog post for Errata Security, cybersecurity expert Robert Graham presented his results, and showed that if the emails had been altered in any way, the software would have declared the email unverified.

"It took less than five minutes," Graham told FoxNews.com, noting that such software is common and widely available. "It took me longer to document what I had found."

But could WikiLeaks have hacked and altered the DKIM key also?

Graham says this is unlikely, since to do so they would have needed to access the HillaryClinton.com server.

Graham is so confident in his finding that he has posted a $600 BitCoin challenge to anyone who can alter an email and have it still come up as verified when run through DKIM software.

“If somebody tells you this blogpost is invalid, then tell them they can earn about $600 (current value of BTC) proving it. Otherwise, no,” he says.

Clinton running mate Tim Kaine has also suggested the WikiLeaks emails could be doctored, but so far neither the campaign nor the DNC has presented evidence to support this claim.

Film at 11.... Mellow



Just another lie... and she told it so well... with such disdain and arrogance.. how dare anyone question the lie... Obama taught her well... Mellow
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