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I miss George Dubbya Bush
tonygraz Offline
#151 Posted:
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Buying machines to produce things for war may not necessarily be a good sign. If no contracts come thru it could mean the demise of the company and it's jobs. War and increasing National Debt are not desirable results either for many people.
DrafterX Offline
#152 Posted:
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Unlike Obama, Trump is making cuts to fund his projects... yes, the debt will continue to rise but it's projected to slow under Trump.. Mellow
TMCTLT Offline
#153 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Keep calling it tears tail.

Reread my posts. I am mocking the idiot that you, yogurt head and Steve seem to love so much. I'm not crying about it. I'm enjoying it. It shows exactly what level of an idiot is able to con you into believing they can run a country (and stop twittering! Hah! You remember when he told his fan base just how super presidential he was gonna be once the election ended? Yeah... they fell for that one too!)

Calling it crybabies or pretending this is in any way related to "participation trophies" is just you trying to take attention away from just how horrendously, and hilariously bad he has been so far.

Be a man. Own up to how stupid the tweeter in chief is. Acknowledge how much golf he is going to play... how much business he's going to funnel to his own resort in Florida while costing all of us more to secure him... while his trophy wife purposely lives in another residence costing us even more... and his grown son and daughter get government staff positions (while supposedly managing his "arms length" assets)...

But no... because he has an "R" by his party you're gonna be super serious about this and pretend he's actually a real president....








You and the Pantsuit Bitch LOST and rightfully so, horrible woman, horrible person and HORRIBLE for our Country!!

You and those who voted for that C should be thanking your lucky stars that even though you were ready and willing to screw the entire country for another four years by electing her.....the rest of us saved you from yourself!!!!




tonygraz wrote:
Buying machines to produce things for war may not necessarily be a good sign. If no contracts come thru it could mean the demise of the company and it's jobs. War and increasing National Debt are not desirable results either for many people.



You mean like these GEMS that you boy Barry brought to the table and used taxpayer $$ to implement???

http://nation.foxnews.com/obama/2012/10/20/list-36-obama-s-taxpayer-funded-green-energy-failures
burnem2 Offline
#154 Posted:
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
no, not at all... piercings can be removed tomorrow... this was more like a 4-year henna tattoo... a trump stump if you will...


Priceless. ....love this one!!!
Buckwheat Offline
#155 Posted:
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I'd prefer W over T every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Hell, I'd vote for his 3rd and 4th term over any more T. fog
TMCTLT Offline
#156 Posted:
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Buckwheat[h wrote:
]I'd prefer W over T every day of the week and twice on Sundays.[/h] Hell, I'd vote for his 3rd and 4th term over any more T. fog




Which is exactly how most feel when comparing Trump to Barry....or Trump to PantSuit Socialist

We didn't need to see her in action to KNOW what we were " In For "
tailgater Offline
#157 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Yeah... trump hasn't accomplished anything yet and you're worried how I'll act when he's balanced the budget and cured cancer.

Try getting a single thing of value accomplished before you say I'll worry about tweets if he's accomplished two things.

Seriously. Ever consider the reason people are complaining about his Twitter whines or his constant lies is because he hasn't actually accomplished anything except that?


We could discuss why you don't like his policy on this or that.
But instead you whine over things that don't really matter.
He tweets and he sounds like an idiot when he does. Get over it.

4 months in and you have nothing to actually complain about, so you look for the media driven drivel that is the circus show surrounding Trump.
Hasn't accomplished anything? I guess nixing the TPP was nothing? Because I'd be happy to start there.
But be forewarned: There's no crying in politics.

I never truly believed you to be a liberal, Victor. But your embracing the liberal act of wanting it both ways. You complain about what Trump is doing and when called out for specifics you complain that he's done nothing.

tailgater Offline
#158 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
Another anecdotal answer and much the same. No less believable.

So what has he done? What bill or EO is directly causing this and will continue to. Or is it truly just optimism at this point?

Again, I believe you and regardless of the reason direct or otherwise it's excellent news. I'm not denigrating or minimizing anything.


Actually, calling it anecdotal is minimizing it.
1,000 people could post similar stories. And each one would be anecdotal by definition. Even if the stories were tied directly to a bill or executive order, the story would be anecdotal.
You're being a contrarian while trying to appear neutral. Nothing new, and I don't mind because you make the board interesting. I just hope you realize that you're doing it.
tailgater Offline
#159 Posted:
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tonygraz wrote:
Buying machines to produce things for war may not necessarily be a good sign. If no contracts come thru it could mean the demise of the company and it's jobs. War and increasing National Debt are not desirable results either for many people.


Yeah. They should refuse those jobs.



Note to self: never let tonygraz manage anything.



RMAN4443 Online
#160 Posted:
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tonygraz wrote:
Buying machines to produce things for war may not necessarily be a good sign. If no contracts come thru it could mean the demise of the company and it's jobs. War and increasing National Debt are not desirable results either for many people.

This company has been in business since 1937, and military contracts are only part of their business. We also produce other products, design and engineering. The only reason I mention this particular military contract is that it has given all the employees an optimism that I have not seen in my trade for many years.......since NAFTA?.........which is when Mfg. went down the toilet.

Also, building a strong military presence does not mean there has to be a war, actually it could have the exact opposite affect. Remember when this country had one of the strongest militaries in the world? Terrorist nations weren't crashing planes into our buildings or cutting the heads of American journalists on video for the world to see. A strong military buildup could actually be a strong deterrent to war. It will also help build the economy, with companies buying new equipment, paying more taxes, hiring more people so welfare roles would decrease and these people would be paying taxes and spending vs. sucking on the tit of America. Maybe even, dare I say it, "Make America Great Again"

And all this hiring and spending and tax paying will help with the national debt. Also people will start to feel better about themselves and be more optimistic about their futures.........Optimism is not a dirty word.

Listen, can you hear it? I can..........



Oh, say, can you see? By the dawn's early light
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming;
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming.
And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air.
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there:
Oh, say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave?
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
burnem2 Offline
#161 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:

Note to self: never let tonygraz manage anything.


Not even Toni's Hair Salon?!?!
teedubbya Offline
#162 Posted:
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By definition it is anecdotal. It just is.
tailgater Offline
#163 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
By definition it is anecdotal. It just is.


I realize that.
But by using the term, you minimize the importance.

When the optimism is strong and consistent and has resulted in actual new or increased business, there is a point in time when a reasonable person can drop descriptions and caveats, even if they're technically accurate.

If an African American scientist discovered a means to travel in time, would we call him the first black time traveler?
Because it would technically be accurate.
Yet purposely misleading.




DrafterX Offline
#164 Posted:
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CROS was a scientific. .?? Huh
victor809 Offline
#165 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
We could discuss why you don't like his policy on this or that.
But instead you whine over things that don't really matter.
He tweets and he sounds like an idiot when he does. Get over it.

4 months in and you have nothing to actually complain about, so you look for the media driven drivel that is the circus show surrounding Trump.

because he has done nothing. If he continues on this track, 4 years later nothing will have been accomplished except a presidential library of 1000's of tweets, 98.2% of which will be factually incorrect.

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Hasn't accomplished anything? I guess nixing the TPP was nothing? Because I'd be happy to start there.
But be forewarned: There's no crying in politics.
meh... I'll give you that one. Although since it wasn't really in place he didn't do much, it was more a lack of continuing to do anything. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing is yet to be seen, and I didn't have strong feelings either way about it.
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I never truly believed you to be a liberal, Victor. But your embracing the liberal act of wanting it both ways. You complain about what Trump is doing and when called out for specifics you complain that he's done nothing.


First, I've not complained a bit about a single accomplishment of trump's. Go ahead. Look. I will mock him and his supporters for being idiots. I'll mock our tweeter in chief for being the tweeter in chief. I'll point out how horrendously corrupt, nepotistic and self serving essentially every one of his actions has been. But I have not made a single statement saying "trump successfully did this and I think it is bad". Because he hasn't accomplished anything.

Don't tell me I'm a liberal for thinking trump is an idiot. I've made no statements about any policy actions, so if you're going to start playing "liberal/conservative" games you're heading into yogurt-head's territory of "anyone who disagrees with my specific views must be a libtard".
delta1 Offline
#166 Posted:
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I'll miss GWB if Trump does worse than than drive the world's and our country's economies nearly over the cliff by letting his fat cat buddies on Wall Street rip everyone off again and chooses to start an unjustified war costing us thousands of lives and resources caring for the wounded, destabilizing an area where we've expended a fortune trying to fight an unwinnable war on terror...we are still trying to recover from GWB's 8 years....

Trump, so far, is relatively harmless in comparison...but his antics create an atmosphere of fear of a major meltdown more than anticipation for positive achievements...


Some things look certain...while Trump is President, the rich will get richer and the rest of us will pay more for less...and Dems and GOP won't work together for the common good, just like under our last President, because there is no longer any agreement on what is a "common good".
tailgater Offline
#167 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
I'll miss GWB if Trump does worse than than drive the world's and our country's economies nearly over the cliff by letting his fat cat buddies on Wall Street rip everyone off again and chooses to start an unjustified war costing us thousands of lives and resources caring for the wounded, destabilizing an area where we've expended a fortune trying to fight an unwinnable war on terror...we are still trying to recover from GWB's 8 years....

Trump, so far, is relatively harmless in comparison...but his antics create an atmosphere of fear of a major meltdown more than anticipation for positive achievements...


Some things look certain...while Trump is President, the rich will get richer and the rest of us will pay more for less...and Dems and GOP won't work together for the common good, just like under our last President, because there is no longer any agreement on what is a "common good".


Rich will get richer.
LOL! First time that will happen.
I guess he'll undo all the fairness doctrines implemented by Obama...


And Trump's antics don't create fear.

Snowflakes don't need antics. They've lived their entire lives getting participation trophies and outlawing red ink on exams and getting days off for election results and learning that words DO hurt and not wearing pink in October makes you a sexist bully and, and, and....

Responsibility has become a four lettered word.
You afraid? Look in the mirror first.

If an "antic" causes a "meltdown" then the snowflake couldn't handle room temperature. Nothing more.





victor809 Offline
#168 Posted:
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Tail... be smart. Read his sentence again.
tailgater Offline
#169 Posted:
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Victor is whining about tweets.

Not policy.

Tweets.

We're talking Tweets.

Not policy.

It's funny to me. Because we're talking about tweets.
We're not even talking about policy, what really matters. We're talking about tweets.

How can Trump affect America with Tweets?








tailgater Offline
#170 Posted:
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Sorry.
Busy channeling my inner A.I.



Vic,
Which sentence?
About his antics "creating" fear? that's pure BS and I stand by my comments.

About the rich getting richer?
I agree. they will.
Some of this administration will be "business as usual" in DC. I get it.
But it was like that under the big O.

Baby steps.

A swamp can't be drained all at once, and I don't think Trump has the fortitude to pull it off.

But the next guy might.
Or the gal after him.

Eventually it can get done.
If we stop feeling badly about attitudes and focus on what really matters.







victor809 Offline
#171 Posted:
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How can Obama affect America through any of the things he said? Not policy. Words. But I had to listen for 8 years how everything he said was the worst. And he used complete sentences.
DrafterX Offline
#172 Posted:
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Obama was able to convince everyone he was a liar... including foreign countries.. that had an impact on America.. Mellow
delta1 Offline
#173 Posted:
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This topic was about "I miss GWB"...

We should ALL hope that we'll never have a President, including Trump, that will make GWB look good in comparison...words, antics, leadership styles don't matter as much as results...

Results matter...
tailgater Offline
#174 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
How can Obama affect America through any of the things he said? Not policy. Words. But I had to listen for 8 years how everything he said was the worst. And he used complete sentences.


Somebody give vic a trophy.




victor809 Offline
#175 Posted:
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Keep up the misdirection. I'm sure Trump will give you a pat on the head and grab your crotch.
tailgater Offline
#176 Posted:
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One can only dream.

DrMaddVibe Offline
#177 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Keep up the misdirection. I'm sure Trump will give you a pat on the head and grab your crotch.


If he's grabbing pu$$y...you should be scared.

Very scared.
victor809 Offline
#178 Posted:
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Keep pretending you're manly fat boy. I've seen the size of your tits.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#179 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Keep pretending you're manly fat boy. I've seen the size of your tits.



You've been TRUMPED!

Go kick a hobo or slip in their poo.
victor809 Offline
#180 Posted:
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... I don't see how you think Trump winning is in any way a bad thing for me.

But I don't credit you with deep thought.
RMAN4443 Online
#181 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
By definition it is anecdotal. It just is.


an·ec·dote1
/ˈanəkˌdōt/

noun
a short and amusing or interesting story about a real incident or person:
synonyms:
story, tale, narrative, incident, urban myth/legend, yarn


Going by the definition above, just about anything discussed here is an anecdote, storys about Trump's tweeting are anecdotes, story's about Russians hacking the election are anecdotes, story's about climate change are anecdotes, story's about the national debt rising are anecdotes, story's about Obamacare are anecdotes, illegal aliens, building a wall, Benghazi, all anecdotes.......if we follow that line of thinking everything said here is an anecdote so what's the point?

Story's about Trump getting Carrier and Ford to keep manufacturing plants in U.S. and not moving to Mexico......anecdotes. So when does it stop being an anecdote and actually become an accomplishment?

As far as I'm concerned good things are happening and the economy is on the upswing.......if people were not more, here's that dirty word again, OPTIMISTIC......the Stock Market would not be going through the roof like it is. Brick wall

I guess there really is no point in going on. In the immortal words of George Dubbya Bush, "If Your Not With Us Your Against Us" Pray
DrafterX Offline
#182 Posted:
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tell the lies long enough and people will believe them.... I've never heard of a President being impeached for winning before.. Think
DrMaddVibe Offline
#183 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
... I don't see how you think Trump winning is in any way a bad thing for me.

But I don't credit you with deep thought.


He occupies your mind and your time.

You and several others moaning about 24/7 from thread to thread to thread is all the proof anyone needs.

Do you have anything else to contribute cupcake?
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#184 Posted:
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So if people questioning or complaining about Trump are whining precious snowflakes, then what were all the people griping about Obama the last 8. Good lord, this seems to be pot and kettle city here.
TMCTLT Offline
#185 Posted:
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SmokeMonkey wrote:
So if people questioning or complaining about Trump are whining precious snowflakes, then what were all the people griping about Obama the last 8. Good lord, this seems to be pot and kettle city here.



Trump IS the result of Obama's eight year run @ dividing us as a nation.....and W's 10 yr. double war program that nearly sent us over the financial cliff.....while solving NOTHING!!!!
tonygraz Offline
#186 Posted:
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Yeah, Trump is on the way to uniting us. Reading the KKK newsletters again, moron ?
tailgater Offline
#187 Posted:
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SmokeMonkey wrote:
So if people questioning or complaining about Trump are whining precious snowflakes, then what were all the people griping about Obama the last 8. Good lord, this seems to be pot and kettle city here.


Yes. This is exactly the same.

smh.


tailgater Offline
#188 Posted:
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tonygraz wrote:
Yeah, Trump is on the way to uniting us. Reading the KKK newsletters again, moron ?


we only need uniting because of what Obama did.
tonygraz Offline
#189 Posted:
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Getting us out of a near depression broke us apart ? Or was it showing how racist many of us really are ?
tonygraz Offline
#190 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Unlike Obama, Trump is making cuts to fund his projects... yes, the debt will continue to rise but it's projected to slow under Trump.. Mellow


Are you talking about all those weekend golf trip projects. Cutting meals on wheels should get all those loafers out and working for their food.
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#191 Posted:
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Can you go a full day without reminding us Obama is black..?? I think we figured that out a long time ago... Mellow
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#192 Posted:
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tonygraz wrote:
Cutting meals on wheels should get all those loafers out and working for their food.



yes, the loafers who were lining their pockets and not delivering food.... Mellow
tailgater Offline
#193 Posted:
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tonygraz wrote:
Getting us out of a near depression broke us apart ? Or was it showing how racist many of us really are ?


Why do you pedophiles always think conservatives are racist?

SmokeMonkey Offline
#194 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
Yes. This is exactly the same.

smh.




So, I'll concede the idiots who went out protesting or hid and cried were, well, idiots. Sort of like the people who believed in hundreds of bizarro conspiracy theories or outright lies about Obama. How is Victor pointing out Trump's "idiosyncrasies" and less than professional (even less presidential) different than the consistent complaints I've read on here for the last few years? And please don't say those complaints were policy driven, so little of what is said on here has anything to do with policy.

I will say I didn't vote for Trump. I also couldn't bring myself to vote for Hillary. I haven't complained, to this point, about the president, other than a few chuckles at his lack of self discipline. Frankly, the Obama years were good to me and I hope the Trump years are better.
delta1 Offline
#195 Posted:
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hey, cut the "being reasonable, rational and respectful" crap out...this is not a respectable establishment...and quit invoking the Frank card...
SmokeMonkey Offline
#196 Posted:
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I just want to be like a genius, even though it's not going to happen. A boy has to dream and stuff.
tailgater Offline
#197 Posted:
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SmokeMonkey wrote:
So, I'll concede the idiots who went out protesting or hid and cried were, well, idiots. Sort of like the people who believed in hundreds of bizarro conspiracy theories or outright lies about Obama. How is Victor pointing out Trump's "idiosyncrasies" and less than professional (even less presidential) different than the consistent complaints I've read on here for the last few years? And please don't say those complaints were policy driven, so little of what is said on here has anything to do with policy.

I will say I didn't vote for Trump. I also couldn't bring myself to vote for Hillary. I haven't complained, to this point, about the president, other than a few chuckles at his lack of self discipline. Frankly, the Obama years were good to me and I hope the Trump years are better.


Idjits will be idjits.

When they attacked Obama, even as a conservative I saw them as foolish.
Now it seems that the idiots are reigning supreme and have full media support.

Obama had 8 years and after only 8 hours people were blaming Trump for dividing the country. (for instance).

Maybe it just gets worse each cycle, but this is by far the worst it's been.

Very few denied that Obama was their president.
The same can't be said today.


burnem2 Offline
#198 Posted:
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tonygraz wrote:
Getting us out of a near depression broke us apart ? Or was it showing how racist many of us really are ?


Speak for yourself snowflake d-bag!
burnem2 Offline
#199 Posted:
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I actually enjoy watching them whine. Call it baiting Republicans, trolling, whatever.....I revel in all of it. You lost boys so SUCK IT!! I even enjoy the tears when they are right!!
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#200 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
Idjits will be idjits.

When they attacked Obama, even as a conservative I saw them as foolish.
Now it seems that the idiots are reigning supreme and have full media support.

Obama had 8 years and after only 8 hours people were blaming Trump for dividing the country. (for instance).

Maybe it just gets worse each cycle, but this is by far the worst it's been.

Very few denied that Obama was their president.
The same can't be said today.





Whatever happened to all the fine upstanding citizens and non citizens who threatened(promised) to leave the U.S. if Trump won the election? I haven't heard of many(or any) who have kept true to their word. Liar

If only more of them had the integrity of Hank the Tank........just Imagine Not talking
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