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Illusione Singulare 2015 vs Ramon Allones Club Allones 2015
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strikeanywhere Offline
#1 Posted: Fri, Mar 3 2017, 6:06 PM EST
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Which would you prefer for long term aging (18+ years)?
bgz Offline
#2 Posted: Fri, Mar 3 2017, 6:53 PM EST
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lol, wat?

You buying now to celebrate you kicking your kid out of the house?

In that case, you should be asking which one would be better to age for 30 years, lololol
LawOfMD Offline
#3 Posted: Fri, Mar 3 2017, 7:03 PM EST
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bgz wrote:
lol, wat?

You buying now to celebrate you kicking your kid out of the house?

In that case, you should be asking which one would be better to age for 30 years, lololol


Whichever one would pair best with Dom Perignon, cuz thats I will be popping open when these danged kids are out of my house.
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#4 Posted: Fri, Mar 3 2017, 9:17 PM EST
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Lol, close bgz

My boy was born in '15

I have a box of EPC LE '15

Wanting to get one other (between those two) and we'll crack them open on his 18th year of life. If any are good we might hang on to a few for his 21. Of course, maybe he'll hate me (and cigars) and I'll be left to smoke by myself.
euodias Offline
#5 Posted: Fri, Mar 3 2017, 10:21 PM EST
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Interesting question actually. Dion is known for blending cigars to age well, and some of my aged Singulares have been among the finest cigars I have ever smoked, but even the original Phantom isn't really that old in the cigar world. Hell, the company has only been around since 2005, so no one knows what an 18 year old illusione tastes like and it will be a while till we do.

Cuban LEs have started to get the opposite reputation, with many people now saying that unlike many regular production Cubans, LEs are best within 5 years. Tobacco strains have changed so much in Cuba that most people are saying today's cigars are way different than pre-2000s blends. No one knows if they will age for decades like they used to.

18 years is a long time, so I dunno. I would bet on both being past their peak at that point. Id put that same bet on any modern cigar right now, so if I was serious about putting something down that long and not touching it at all, I would vacuum seal it to slow down the aging process.
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#6 Posted: Fri, Mar 3 2017, 10:55 PM EST
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euodias wrote:
Interesting question actually. Dion is known for blending cigars to age well, and some of my aged Singulares have been among the finest cigars I have ever smoked, but even the original Phantom isn't really that old in the cigar world. Hell, the company has only been around since 2005, so no one knows what an 18 year old illusione tastes like and it will be a while till we do.

Cuban LEs have started to get the opposite reputation, with many people now saying that unlike many regular production Cubans, LEs are best within 5 years. Tobacco strains have changed so much in Cuba that most people are saying today's cigars are way different than pre-2000s blends. No one knows if they will age for decades like they used to.

18 years is a long time, so I dunno. I would bet on both being past their peak at that point. Id put that same bet on any modern cigar right now, so if I was serious about putting something down that long and not touching it at all, I would vacuum seal it to slow down the aging process.

you are wicked smaht
ZRX1200 Offline
#7 Posted: Fri, Mar 3 2017, 10:58 PM EST
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I'd put away a box of Tatuaje 7th Reservas.
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#8 Posted: Fri, Mar 3 2017, 11:00 PM EST
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I doubt that I'll still be smoking when I'm 90 so, good luck with that.
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#9 Posted: Fri, Mar 3 2017, 11:02 PM EST
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elRopo wrote:
I doubt that I'll still be smoking when I'm 90 so, good luck with that.

doctor's orders?
ZRX1200 Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Mar 3 2017, 11:06 PM EST
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You're 78 you old ******?
elRopo Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Mar 3 2017, 11:07 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
doctor's orders?

He's cool with it. One thing is certain if I live long enough something will kill me.
elRopo Offline
#12 Posted: Fri, Mar 3 2017, 11:10 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
You're 78 you old ******?

70 + 18 = 88Angel
ZRX1200 Offline
#13 Posted: Fri, Mar 3 2017, 11:28 PM EST
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I meant 72....you're still older than Moses.
elRopo Offline
#14 Posted: Fri, Mar 3 2017, 11:32 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I meant 72....you're still older than Moses.

Yeah, sigh ... He's catching up with me though.
ZRX1200 Offline
#15 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 12:00 AM EST
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At least you're not as old as WT.
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#16 Posted: Sat, Mar 4 2017, 7:18 AM EST
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euodias thank you very much for sharing that insight. I appreciate the detailed reply. Maybe I'll get two, vac seal one, then we'll have some really fun comparisons on our hands. Thanks!
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