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Gurkha Cigars
achalmers Offline
#1 Posted:
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I'm reading through my CI catalogue and I always see Gurkhas being highly praised as "top-shelf, high quality" with an MSRP of over $400 for 20 cigars. What's everyone's opinion on these? I've had them before and they're ok but my beef is this...if they're such high quality, how come you can get $20 for $59.99??? Am I missing something here?

AC
dharbolt Offline
#2 Posted:
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Yucky. That is all
Pudding Mittens Offline
#3 Posted:
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Ugh, Gurkha.

98% of their stuff I've tried has been total schitt. The 2% that was good is a crapshoot, because if you buy that exact same cigar again, there's a good chance it'll suck.

In short, mostly low-quality, and the higher-quality stuff is unpredictable and inconsistent.

The grandiose bullschitt about $400 boxes and "high-end, sought-after luxury lifestyle brand" is completely made-up nonsense to get idiots to buy them.

They're a longstanding joke in the cigar world.
frankj1 Offline
#4 Posted:
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achalmers wrote:
I'm reading through my CI catalogue and I always see Gurkhas being highly praised as "top-shelf, high quality" with an MSRP of over $400 for 20 cigars. What's everyone's opinion on these? I've had them before and they're ok but my beef is this...if they're such high quality, how come you can get $20 for $59.99??? Am I missing something here?

AC

you may have overpaid.
ZRX1200 Offline
#5 Posted:
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Because you're being sold "internet" cigars.....

******** members get B&M cigars.

B&M Gurkhas are the real Rolls Royces of cigars.
bs_kwaj Offline
#6 Posted:
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http://www.oldbug.com/Mvc-004f.jpg

Beer
tonygraz Offline
#7 Posted:
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I've never had a B&M Gurkha. I've smoked over 60 different ones and only remember one that was horrible. Most Gurkhas are mediocre cigars, but of those 60 + over a dozen were quite good if not superb. The best bet in trying a Gurkha is to pick one that isn't sold exclusively by an internet seller. MSRP is a joke, so disregard it. Stay away from the infused crap- Oliveros does cognac infused better. If you find a good one, stock up quick before they change to licensed reproductions.
Hank_The_Tank Offline
#8 Posted:
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Any suggestions on ones that are worth trying? I have had quite a few and was not impressed. The only one that I remember that was any good was the Triple Ligero. There was also one perfecto that I liked but no clue which it was as it was given to me by a friend.
dstieger Offline
#9 Posted:
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HtT,

Micro TPB-1 - box pressed lance w/corojo wrapper....v good....if you find some, lmk....smoked last one about two years ago

Titan - OR (any that I purchased after 2009 were mediocre)....deep, sweet flavors, burns well, lasts a couple hours

Ancient Warrior - Get one from 2008 or earlier (purple; not yellow) --- recently re-released versions are way beyond horrible....I can't think of another cigar that was so completely fd up between OR and re-release...great to unfnsmokeable

There was another skinny box press from days gone by...I can't recall the name....believe it was a cameroon wrapper...decent enough for the coin


I have not had one single Gurkha sold since 2011 that was worth one half what I paid for it...there may be some out there, but I refuse to believe that it might be worth the risk of going through some absolutely **** cigars that may well explode on you
Hank_The_Tank Offline
#10 Posted:
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dstieger wrote:
HtT,

Micro TPB-1 - box pressed lance w/corojo wrapper....v good....if you find some, lmk....smoked last one about two years ago

Titan - OR (any that I purchased after 2009 were mediocre)....deep, sweet flavors, burns well, lasts a couple hours

Ancient Warrior - Get one from 2008 or earlier (purple; not yellow) --- recently re-released versions are way beyond horrible....I can't think of another cigar that was so completely fd up between OR and re-release...great to unfnsmokeable

There was another skinny box press from days gone by...I can't recall the name....believe it was a cameroon wrapper...decent enough for the coin


I have not had one single Gurkha sold since 2011 that was worth one half what I paid for it...there may be some out there, but I refuse to believe that it might be worth the risk of going through some absolutely **** cigars that may well explode on you


How do I go about getting OR versions of these? Seems difficult..haha.

Pretty much every Gurkha I have had, had severe burn issues and all canoed really bad.
jespear Offline
#11 Posted:
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dstieger wrote:
HtT,

Micro TPB-1 - box pressed lance w/corojo wrapper....v good....if you find some, lmk....smoked last one about two years ago

Titan - OR (any that I purchased after 2009 were mediocre)....deep, sweet flavors, burns well, lasts a couple hours

Ancient Warrior - Get one from 2008 or earlier (purple; not yellow) --- recently re-released versions are way beyond horrible....I can't think of another cigar that was so completely fd up between OR and re-release...great to unfnsmokeable

There was another skinny box press from days gone by...I can't recall the name....believe it was a cameroon wrapper...decent enough for the coin


I have not had one single Gurkha sold since 2011 that was worth one half what I paid for it...there may be some out there, but I refuse to believe that it might be worth the risk of going through some absolutely **** cigars that may well explode on you


I think this subject matter, (OR vs re-issue), has been addressed in another thread, but I just had to add my $.02

The OR Black Pearl Morado (purple band) was an excellent cigar.
The re-issue truly SUCKED !


As far as OR Gurkhas go . . . In addition to the Ancient Warrior mentioned above, I liked the Centurian XX, Royal Brigade, Nepalese Warrior, Class Regent, and probably a few others that I can't think of at the moment.

Have not had ONE "new" Gurkha that even came close to my liking.
jespear Offline
#12 Posted:
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Hank_The_Tank wrote:
How do I go about getting OR versions of these? Seems difficult..haha.

Pretty much every Gurkha I have had, had severe burn issues and all canoed really bad.


Try your luck at posting an ISO. who knows . . . some fog may have some laying around, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.
Hank_The_Tank Offline
#13 Posted:
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So pretty much Gurkha pre-2009 is the way to go...
jespear Offline
#14 Posted:
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Hank_The_Tank wrote:
So pretty much Gurkha pre-2009 is the way to go...


ThumpUp
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#15 Posted:
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Hank_The_Tank wrote:
So pretty much Gurkha pre-2009 is the way to go...


Not really...
Hank_The_Tank Offline
#16 Posted:
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Like I asked before, how would one go about finding these OR's? Just from people that have old boxes or is there a way to still buy some of these somewhere?
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#17 Posted:
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Probably best with an ISO post. I don't think that Gurkha (like most NCs) dated their boxes, so shops might not really have an accurate idea of the age.
Hank_The_Tank Offline
#18 Posted:
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
Probably best with an ISO post. I don't think that Gurkha (like most NCs) dated their boxes, so shops might not really have an accurate idea of the age.


Thanks
opelmanta1900 Offline
#19 Posted:
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I really used to like gurkas a lot when i first started smoking cigars... someone here sold me a box of the original class regents and a tin sampler...

The regents were good, but only good in the sense that they would be considered a good $3 cigar... but it sold for $5...

The sampler had a beauty, beast, shaggy, crest, and titan... i posted some pic comparisons of those cigars with versions of the cigars i had bought here, and they were clearly different...

no one here really gave a sh*t about the pics, which i didn't understand then... but i understand now it was because most people here know gurkas are low quality cigars... and even at their best, gurks can't compare with other cigars of the same price, hence the gimmicky marketing...

99cobra2881 Offline
#20 Posted:
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Your first name wouldn't be Allis by chance would it?
dstieger Offline
#21 Posted:
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:) I asked the same question, but he's sorta evasive

You from MKE, Cobra?
bgz Offline
#22 Posted:
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I'm proud to say that I have never smoked a Gurkha.

That is all.
corey sellers Offline
#23 Posted:
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I am proud to say I don't plan on smoking another one
achalmers Offline
#24 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
you may have overpaid.

Hi Frank...I never bought them because I didn't buy they hype + price marketing gimmick.

AC
achalmers Offline
#25 Posted:
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corey sellers wrote:
I am proud to say I don't plan on smoking another one

Yeah...agreed. I've smoked a few before and like I said to Frank, I didn't purchase them because I'm not buying the marketing gimmick of top shelf + super low price.

AC
achalmers Offline
#26 Posted:
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99cobra2881 wrote:
Your first name wouldn't be Allis by chance would it?

Yes. I'm the great grandson of Allis Chalmers, the tractor mogul. Just kidding.
tonygraz Offline
#27 Posted:
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And his sister is Alice.
99cobra2881 Offline
#28 Posted:
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dstieger wrote:
:) I asked the same question, but he's sorta evasive

You from MKE, Cobra?


I must not be, 'cause I don't know what MKE is?
tonygraz Offline
#29 Posted:
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A Gurk currently available here is the Special Ops. Haven't had one recently, but the ones I got 2 or more years ago were very good. Another I picked up here was the Seduction robusto. Tried a larger size one that wasn't so good. Most of what shows up on the auctions lately .have not been very good.
gummy jones Offline
#30 Posted:
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there is only one gurkha that i think remains worth smoking but i aint telling as they usually go quick
Hmhaines Offline
#31 Posted:
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Not a fan. Spend your money elsewhere. Don't trust the catalogs!
JGKAMIN Offline
#32 Posted:
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So because they have an MSRP of $599.99/box yet on sale today for 95% off doesn't make it a super deal on a super premium cigar? Even if they throw a Ginsu knife and challenge coin in with it?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#33 Posted:
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achalmers wrote:
I'm reading through my CI catalogue and I always see Gurkhas being highly praised as "top-shelf, high quality" with an MSRP of over $400 for 20 cigars. What's everyone's opinion on these? I've had them before and they're ok but my beef is this...if they're such high quality, how come you can get $20 for $59.99??? Am I missing something here?

AC



You?

Maybe not. Remember you can't drive the Rolls Royce until you buy it!
99cobra2881 Offline
#34 Posted:
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To paraphrase from another post on here "Gurkha buys tobacco in discount lots and then rolls it into whatever cigar he's making at the time, that's why the consistency of the blends is never the same because the tobacco is never the same."
jjanecka Offline
#35 Posted:
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+1
Brewha Offline
#36 Posted:
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I never met a Gurkha I liked. And I have tried them.


Don't like the picture of the fat guy cutting his thumb either......
Pudding Mittens Offline
#37 Posted:
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99cobra2881 wrote:
To paraphrase from another post on here "Gurkha buys tobacco in discount lots and then rolls it into whatever cigar he's making at the time, that's why the consistency of the blends is never the same because the tobacco is never the same."

That explains quite a lot, actually. Thanks for the insight.

jammex Offline
#38 Posted:
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If Gurkha was the only cigar, I would quit smoking cigars.
My barbeque grill puts out less smoke.
jammex Offline
#39 Posted:
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If Gurkha was the only cigar, I would quit smoking cigars.
My barbeque grill puts out less smoke.
jammex Offline
#40 Posted:
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If Gurkha was the only cigar, I would quit smoking cigars.
My barbeque grill puts out less smoke.
jammex Offline
#41 Posted:
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If Gurkha was the only cigar, I would quit smoking cigars.
My barbeque grill puts out less smoke.
Stinkdyr Offline
#42 Posted:
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Gurkha-d....it's what you get in a sports bet if you fail to specify!

Herfing
midmofan Offline
#43 Posted:
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Gurkhas are useful for the companies that do samplers and bundles because - with the huge MSRP on the Gurkhas - they can make it look like you are getting an amazing deal on the bundle or sampler. All the while, they are filling out the bundle with a cigar they probably get for pennies on the (retail) dollar. That does not necessarily make the sampler a bad deal, its just you have to discount it based on the Gurkhas that are included!

The only Gurkhas I have had have come this way - in some sampler I wanted for some reason. For example the CI humidor samplers can be a good deal. Gotten them several times when wanted to give a nice looking but inexpensive humi to somebody as a gift and I keep the cigars. Usually there are one are two in that sampler that are pretty good and the rest decent yard-gars or hand-outs at golf course or parties. and...then...there is...the Gurkha! (cue ominous sound effects: organ stab, thunder, frightened horses!)

I can only imagine that the Gurkhas that they put in the samplers are probably the worst of the worst because that is what they have always tasted like to me - don't even give those out (to people I like anyway...)
qmech Offline
#44 Posted:
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Worth every penny.... Literally worth pennies....
Q
😁😁😁😁
T Z Offline
#45 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
I'm proud to say that I have never smoked a Gurkha.

That is all.

dont lie ben .we all know you are a gurkha whore
T Z Offline
#46 Posted:
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the black puro was good .but that was a long time ago
Jay40 Offline
#47 Posted:
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I thought the Hudson bay was pretty good
Jay40 Offline
#48 Posted:
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I thought the Hudson bay was pretty good
Brewha Offline
#49 Posted:
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For 2017, Gurkha is rolling out their newest top shelf variety: The Gurkha Lawn Sausage edition - aged for three days.
Pick one up today.....
dharbolt Offline
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T Z wrote:
dont lie ben .we all know you are a gurkha whore


That's what I heard... Not talking
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