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AL.com - Pair charged in explosive device at elementary school; planned to shoot cops, start race war

A convicted felon who claims he wanted to shoot cops is behind bars in connection with the explosives device planted outside of a Trussville elementary school.

Authorities today announced state charges against 35-year-old Zachary Edwards and 34-year-old Raphel Dilligard, both of eastern Birmingham. They are charged with possession of a hoax destructive device, rendering false alarm and making terrorist threats, said Trussville police Capt. Jeff Bridges.

The warrants were issued this morning after the week-long probe by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, Trussville police, the Alabama State Fire Marshal's Office, the Alabama Law Enforcement Agency and the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office.

Edwards claimed to be a member of the Black Panthers and the Black Mafia, but authorities have not yet confirmed his reported associations with any organized group. "My guys believe this individual to be a very dangerous person,'' said Dave Hyche, ATF's assistant special agent in charge in Alabama.

Lawmen responded en masse to Magnolia Elementary School on Wednesday, Nov. 16, after they received a 911 from a woman who reported seeing a Hispanic male place the package on a pickup truck that belonged to a school cafeteria worker. The package was a box with wires and timer attached.

"When we first saw what we had, we knew this was something to take serious and we put on the full-court press. It disturbed us from the start,'' Hyche said. "I've never seen such a well-orchestrated and rapid response."

Hyche today said the children and staff weren't in any danger from the device, and even if it had been in working condition, it was on the far side of the school where there was no glass.

The first break in the case came when investigators were able to trace that 911 to a cell phone that had once been owned by Edwards, said Hyche and Bridges. The 911 call was actually placed by Edwards, who disguised his voice to try to sound like a woman.

Also, the timer – a stopwatch - used on the device was determined to have been sold at Walmart, and Hyche said investigators then analyzed all 18 recent buyers in the area. They quickly eliminated those that would have a legitimate reason for needing a timer – like a track coach - that ultimately led them to the store in Irondale where a woman - later determined to be Dilligard - was seen on video surveillance buying the timer.

Edwards and Dilligard were taken into custody Tuesday evening at their home in the 7700 block of Fifth Avenue South.

Once brought in for questioning, both gave confessions. Edwards admitted to planting the device, and said his plan was to get all police officers and first responders in one place so he could shoot them. "I guess he doesn't like cops,'' Bridges said.

Edwards also talked of using the incident as a diversion so he could commit crimes elsewhere - such as robbing a bank - while the police were tied up at the elementary school, but backed out of that plan.

"Probably because of the overwhelming response to the area,'' Hyche said. "He wanted everybody in one place so he could kill cops. He made it clear to our guys he wanted to commit acts of violence. This arrest probably did stop something bad from happening."

He discussed starting a race war, but authorities didn't elaborate on what he said.

The device – which was disabled in nearby woods – did contain gun powder. "It was painstakingly put together and it also had most of what you need to make a bomb,'' Hyche said. He said, however, that there was no way the device could have detonated, but he didn't elaborate.

Hyche said numerous tips came in to the ATF tip line, many of which named Edwards as the person who left the device. "It was someone that knew him, and was afraid he was going to do something,'' he said.

Edwards has a lengthy criminal record, including a 2000 conviction for second-degree assault. He was sentenced to 10 years in prison with three to serve in that case.

Both suspects are awaiting transport from Trussville to the Jefferson County Jail. Hyche said the investigation is ongoing and they could also face federal charges.


Shame on you
Covfireman Offline
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Ironic
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Covfireman wrote:
Ironic



What, that the left is not without it's baggage?
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The left has a few crazies that for some reason didn't turn sharp right.
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Why do you think this criminal behavior reflects on the left?
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rfenst wrote:
Why do you think this criminal behavior reflects on the left?



That's his agenda.
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Burner02 wrote:
What, that the left is not without it's baggage?

That's bad medicine Burner.

There are crazies in all of the parties and all of the races. It might feel good to do the "they all look alike to me" dance, it only makes matters worse.

Shame on you
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tonygraz wrote:
The left has a few crazies that for some reason didn't turn sharp right.



Maybe you need L and R on your shoes . Or did you go in a complete circle ? Don't lie .horse
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I'm not like you, druggy.
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tonygraz wrote:
I'm not like you, druggy.



There you go with your depravity, you start sling insults that you can't substantiate. You're already a proven liar how can anything you say be taken seriously . |ou saw a .223 go through 6 inches of steel plate etier a bald face lie or a figment of your illogic mind . Now run away before your pants catch fire and stay off the telephone wire .
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The responses to the OP were just as I expected. However, that being said, I will add a bit more wisdom:

There is no "they all look alike" dance here. While each side has its crazies, the Black Lives Matter movement, based on erroneous information--or a lie--whichever way you'd like to spin it--was and is clearly espoused and embraced by both the POTUS and his Democrat "wanna be but isn't" replacement, HRC. Clearly, a movement from the left. I reiterate again: All Lives Matter--left or right--no agenda.
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Covfireman is a train wreck. So is his strange views on politics. He's about due for another bender soon.
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So, what were you on when you saw da bullet go thru 6" of steel..?? Huh
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I donno - I saw a guy put a straw through a potato once......


Just sayin'
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Ya, stainless steel straws will do that.. Mellow
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But what Tony described is impossible. .. even in a tornado. .. Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
So, what were you on when you saw da bullet go thru 6" of steel..?? Huh


2nd or 3rd floor of the old Colt Firearms headquarters- and only saw the aftermath.
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tonygraz wrote:
2nd or 3rd floor of the old Colt Firearms headquarters- and only saw the aftermath.


must been outta one of those guns that that senator said can shoot down planes, sun, etc
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Ya, stainless steel straws will do that.. Mellow

If I recall, it was a Wendy's plastic straw and a raw potato.

Come to think of it, I went to a Ripliey's museum and saw some wheat straw put through a telephone pole cause of a tornado.

And, I'm not sure about this, cause I was drinkin', but I was a Repulican help a poor man - and his kids.....





Ok, I must have been drunk.....
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Brewha wrote:


And, I'm not sure about this, cause I was drinkin', but I was a Repulican help a poor man - and his kids.....




It happens more than you know. Maybe the Dems should try it on occasion rather than just talking about it.
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Covfireman wrote:
There you go with your depravity, you start sling insults that you can't substantiate. You're already a proven liar how can anything you say be taken seriously . |ou saw a .223 go through 6 inches of steel plate etier a bald face lie or a figment of your illogic mind . Now run away before your pants catch fire and stay off the telephone wire .


Immature.
But I giggled.
Herfing
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Brewha wrote:
I donno - I saw a guy put a straw through a potato once......


Just sayin'


I put extra gravy on my mashed.
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Burner02 wrote:
It happens more than you know. Maybe the Dems should try it on occasion rather than just talking about it.


The R's do it on their own.
The D's demand that government does it with your taxes.

Gross over simplification of a general characterization. I know.
But still accurate.

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I will tip my hat to that.
Gross over simplification is the hallmark of the Republican Right.


One must repect the mastery.....
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tonygraz wrote:
2nd or 3rd floor of the old Colt Firearms headquarters- and only saw the aftermath.



Put your shovel down y. You keep digging your hole bigger and bigger . Have you even been to West Hartford ? Do you have bionic eyes ? You'd of made a decent spotter . If anyone could believe you . The outdoor range was just over 1000 meters from the building .


As for the Bender I don't drink . Your earlier comment cling me a druggie is a bit funnier to me . I spent the first few years of my carer in drug interdiction.

If you ever wonder why the right hates the left get a mirror. When you can't support what you say you turn to slander . Look up slander . You stating an untruth about me is slander . Me calling you a liar isn't because it's a fact .
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tailgater wrote:
Immature.
But I giggled.
Herfing



I did too when I read it again .

I'll apologize for the immaturity . I'll leave out the liar liar sitting on a telephone wire the next time
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Brewha wrote:
I will tip my hat to that.
Gross over simplification is the hallmark of the Republican Right.


One must repect the mastery.....


Understand that I'm a Republican in the land of Democrats.
Survival of the fittest, and all that.

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Covfireman wrote:
Put your shovel down y. You keep digging your hole bigger and bigger . Have you even been to West Hartford ? Do you have bionic eyes ? You'd of made a decent spotter . If anyone could believe you . The outdoor range was just over 1000 meters from the building .


As for the Bender I don't drink . Your earlier comment cling me a druggie is a bit funnier to me . I spent the first few years of my carer in drug interdiction.

If you ever wonder why the right hates the left get a mirror. When you can't support what you say you turn to slander . Look up slander . You stating an untruth about me is slander . Me calling you a liar isn't because it's a fact .


Don't be condescending to Tonygraz.

Tony, that means to talk down to you, often in a patronizing manner.
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Covfireman wrote:
Put your shovel down y. You keep digging your hole bigger and bigger . Have you even been to West Hartford ? ....


Well stupid- Colt Firearms main office was in Hartford on Huyshope Avenue before they went downhill- West Hartford was the M-16/AR-15 assembly and testing plant as well as housing other divisions of the old Colt Industries. Data processing was done primarily in West Hartford back in the 70's and of course I have been there.
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An idiot like CF must have someone to key in his commentary.
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you're mean... Mellow
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tonygraz wrote:
Well stupid- Colt Firearms main office was in Hartford on Huyshope Avenue before they went downhill- West Hartford was the M-16/AR-15 assembly and testing plant as well as housing other divisions of the old Colt Industries. Data processing was done primarily in West Hartford back in the 70's and of course I have been there.



Nice , now which building were you in when you saw the magic bullet ? You know the .223 that went through the 6 inch steel plate ? Remember you need to put your shovel down every time you add to your you make your self more of a liar than you are .

You still don't understand slander . Stupid is slander ignorant isn't . IL admit there are things I'm ignorant about everyone is ignorant about something .now calm down come out of your safe place and tell the truth . Your total lack of honesty makes you unbelievable . It doesn't matter if you support the correct argument or not , your inherent dishonesty makes you unbelievable . horse

Just tell the truth since you saw the aftermath describe it how was the steel plate supported ? What did the exit look like the entrance ?



I understand now why you are such a Hilary supporter . Lying Hilary and all .



Lying tony

Did your parents spank you ? I'm guessing you were a time out child? A bunch of participation trophy ? Never won anything ? Poor tony .

No matter how you wield your shovel you will always be a liar .

I like how you threw around facts that did nothing to support what you said and concluded it made your case about the magic bullet . Did you learn that from you hero Pelosi? Boxer , Hilary , Reid, Obama? Will try to define is to hid you lied ? Are you saving the blue dress you wore ?
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https://defendjudgeday.com/the-story/

Here's the sxhit the left here pulls
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... cov.... did you just say with a straight face that lying makes you unbelievable... and then quote a trumpism of "lying hillary "?

.... come on man...
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victor809 wrote:
... cov.... did you just say with a straight face that lying makes you unbelievable... and then quote a trumpism of "lying hillary "?

.... come on man...



LOL the irony but even a broken clock is right twice a day . I'm sorry we disagree agree on her amount of coruption but even you can't call her honest Hilary .
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ZRX1200 wrote:
https://defendjudgeday.com/the-story/

Here's the sxhit the left here pulls



Sounds like a swell guy:
Among the commission's findings:

Day instructed his staff members to embark on a "discriminatory plan" by telling people that they would have to check the judge's schedule before he could perform a wedding. The judge then allegedly told his staff to investigate if the couples were gay. If so, staff members were to tell the couple that the judge was "unavailable" on the requested day and to call another judge, the commission said.
Day included a portrait of Adolf Hitler in a "Hall of Heroes" artwork display he erected in the Marion County Courthouse. When then-Presiding Judge Jamese Rhoades told him to take it down, he told her, "You don't want to go there because some very influential people in this town want it up," the commission wrote. Rhoades viewed that as "a veiled political threat," the commission said.
After Day's son was hurt during a Chemeketa Community College soccer game in 2012, Day shoved "his judicial business card at a soccer referee" to intimidate the referee because Day was mad at him for a call he'd made before his son's injury.

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2016/11/oregon_judge_vance_day_indicte.html
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You had me at oregonlive.......and not reading the link.
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Aimee and Les are not biased at all btw.
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Cov... depends on where you want to draw the line. If you consider an average politician honest, then sure. But to compare her to the most divisive president elect in history, who will say "I didn't say x" when confronted with a video of him saying x...

I mean... you say lying makes one unbelievable, yet you believe the most divisive president elect ever when he calls her "lying hillary "....

It just stretches my ability to accept that sort of silliness.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
You had me at oregonlive.......and not reading the link.



I have no idea who they are, was the first thing that google came up with.
So you are saying that the commission didn't come up with those findings?
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It's that pesky bill of rights that both sides want to destroy .
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Lots more of the same info:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Judge+Vance+Day&oq=Judge+Vance+Day&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i61&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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victor809 wrote:
Cov... depends on where you want to draw the line. If you consider an average politician honest, then sure. But to compare her to the most divisive president elect in history, who will say "I didn't say x" when confronted with a video of him saying x...

I mean... you say lying makes one unbelievable, yet you believe the most divisive president elect ever when he calls her "lying hillary "....

It just stretches my ability to accept that sort of silliness.



I can't come up with the fact that she a liar on my own ? Unlike some on the left or right I am capable of independent thought . The fact that you disregard someone's argument just because it reaches the same conclusion as someone you dislike is illogical a position I'm amused to see you in .

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ZRX1200 wrote:
You had me at oregonlive.......and not reading the link.



I really don't care if you do or do not read the link.
I just have an aversion to being accused of plagiarization.
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Capable of independent thought but coincidentally parroting a demagogue...
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How would you prove it was even possible mathematically? I know you'd need the weight if the bullet and the muzzle velocity what else ?
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victor809 wrote:
Capable of independent thought but coincidentally parroting a demagogue...



He was quoting me I've called her that for years . Herfing you can't discard a fact even when it comes from a source you dislike . You can disprove it but in her case that would be impossible.




On the July 31 edition of Fox News Sunday, host Chris Wallace played a video montage of several times Clinton said something like: "I am confident that I never sent nor received any information that was classified at the time."

Wallace remarked, "After a long investigation, FBI director James Comey said none of those things that you told the American public were true." ( quoted from politifacts )


When she sent the first email containing a paragraph marked c she sent a classified email . That's a fact . What Comey said was that no reasonable prosecutor would persue it . Notice he didn't say she didn't violate the law just that prosecuting her wouldn't likely be successful. I haven't read her confidentiality agreement but I have saw others for a lower security cleared e that secretary of state she'd be in violation of that . Someone also had to physically transfer that document from a secure system to her server . You can't just email that from the secured system to the non secured it was most likely printed and scanned . Who ever did that committed a crime . Whoever told them to committed a crime . I know from my cleared ce I'd be in levenworth KS and not for a short visit but I admit my prosecution would be under the ucmj differnt rules of evidence .

None the less she lied .
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Don't see me disagreeing that she did. The question is whether she actually did it enough to classify her as lying hillary, when looking at the pool of politicians she is in. More significantly, I would expect someone who is going to nickname her lying hillary to hold themselves to a higher standard of honesty. This has clearly not been the case.
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So I'm not holding myself to a higher standard than her ? Like I said if I did what she did I'd be in prison best case scenario dead worse case. Ok my death wouldn't be worse case causing others to get killed would .


The fact that all politicians lie doesn't give some a pass to lie . That includes Trump I'm not defending him .

She's always been lying hillary from Watergate , to whitewater, to the foundation, to the speaking fees , but most importantly what was in the 30000+ emails she deleted ? Was the ones marked c not deleted because as hilary said she didn't know they were classified ? And real classified or top secret email deleted ? She's a morally bankrupt person who sole goal was to amass a person fortune for her family .
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Meh. There has never been any evidence of anything more than the couple emails identified by comey. Your conviction that she is a morally bankrupt person is simply not based on any actual evidence, just accusations. And it has caused you to support trump who has shown just as much, if not more, moral bankruptcy... because he's willing to scream lying hillary a lot and that makes you feel good. ...

It's fine. This insanity has gotten us trump. Whee.
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