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Hank_The_Tank Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Nov 15 2016, 4:20 PM EST
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Hey guys, new to the board. I have been enjoying cigars for about 8-10 years now and know a fair amount about cigars. The one thing I am struggling with is digging through all the new cigars that have come out in recent months/years. I was pouring through my CI catalog and realized how little I know about some of the cigars that are out. I am hoping you guys can give me some advice in regards to the below list. Some of them are cheap sticks and I am curious if they are worth trying or if they are junk. Some are ones I have never heard of and some are makers that I love but don't know their newer selection. I am generally a maduro guy, the darker and thicker ring gauge the better, however, I have enjoyed all sorts of sticks. Some of my favorites are the Padron 64th anniversary maduro, CAO Brazilia, RP Edge Maduro, CAO Vision, HdN Celebracion, Obsidian and the list could go on, so I won't bore you too much.

Amati
CAO Flathead 660
Don Rafael (whole line)
La Perla 1515
EP Carillo (whole line)
Ave Maria (whole line)
AJ Fernandez New World
AVO Fogata/Syncro
Bugatti (whole line)
RyJ Media Noche
Gurkha Beauty/Beast - I always see these with massive price reductions and curious if they are any good
Macanudo Vintage
Sancho Panza Triple Anejo
Ramon Bueso (whole line)
Oliva V Malanio
Padron Damaso
La Gloria Cubana Serie R Black Maduro
Davidoff - are they worth the price?
Punch Signature
Diesel Uncut
DE Kentucky Fire Cure
Undercrown Shade
HC Series

Sorry for the long list.
dstieger Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Nov 15 2016, 4:36 PM EST
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Hank_The_Tank wrote:
....so I won't bore you too much.




LOL!Frying pan


We've got a Hank...and a Tank...already. But, those guys are kinda scarce lately. So, I suppose you can stick around a while. As long as you send SteveS a cigar.
sd72 Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, Nov 15 2016, 4:44 PM EST
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AVO, Padron, and the melanio are worth buyin. I'd skip the rest, the Davidoff are ok if the money is no big deal to you.
Hank_The_Tank Offline
#4 Posted: Tue, Nov 15 2016, 4:47 PM EST
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I probably did bore you guys, but oh well. Just curious about a lot of sticks and wanted to give you a little background. Sorry that my name is similar to others, just one I liked. In regards to sending SteveS a cigar, give me the details and I am on it. I generally know how these forums work.haha..I think its called a bus driver...
Hank_The_Tank Offline
#5 Posted: Tue, Nov 15 2016, 4:48 PM EST
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I know a few of those are more of yard gars, but curious if they are decent since they are so cheap. I know I like AVO, Padron and Oliva, but haven't tried those specific ones.
dstieger Offline
#6 Posted: Tue, Nov 15 2016, 4:59 PM EST
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BTW, opinions on cigars are like ****, of course. Here's 11 years of cigar knowledge distilled to a couple drops:

1. Bargain cigars that YOU will like are hard to come by and the journey to find them is going to be painful. I have a short list of $1-3 cigars that I actually enjoy. Was it worth wading in the shallow end of CBID, CI and a dozen others for years; smoking **** and gaining experience...IDK...maybe...maybe not.

2. I've had some decent Gurkhas -- another very short list. If you learn nothing else in this first thread, learn this: Gurkha MSRP means absolutely NOTHING. Read that sentence again. You will think you're getting deals, but you're getting fucked. For all the Gurkhas I tried, thinking I was getting a great deal, there were maybe 3 that were worth what I paid....and those three aren't made anymore.

3. You won't do it, but if you skip the entire CBID learning curve and just start out buying Cubans and/or a few boutique brands (e.g., Illusione, Tatuaje, RoMaCraft, Caldwell, Liga Privada, Dunbarton, and a few others) you will pay more per cigar, but your cigar enjoyment per dollar spent will be vastly increased. Took some of us years to fully grasp this, but, as Wheel tried to tell me nearly a decade ago, it is true.
Just Relax Offline
#7 Posted: Tue, Nov 15 2016, 5:15 PM EST
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The Oliva V and New World are my favorites on this list.
Pudding Mittens Offline
#8 Posted: Tue, Nov 15 2016, 5:22 PM EST
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Quote:
CAO Flathead 660


Overrated IMO. Also, avoid CAO overall, because they tend to introduce a cigar and make it really good for awhile, but then they dumb down the blend and use crappier tobaccos and hope you won't notice (for example, the Sopranos wrapper change, which they admitted to, but only years later).
Hmhaines Offline
#9 Posted: Tue, Nov 15 2016, 5:50 PM EST
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I love some of the AVO, particularly the Nicaraguans.

EP Carillo is spoken highly of by one of the well-repected members of my local club, though I don't know enough to give a decent account.

I thought the Oliva V Melanio was a tad overrated, but perhaps it just isn't my cup of tea. A few of my friends adore the stick and were shocked that I don't worship it as well.

Kentucky Fire Cure is iffy. The flavor is very smoky and slightly monotone. I enjoy the KFC a great deal when I'm in the mood for it. Some folks adore this line, some think it should he quarantined from other cigars.

Not on the list, but I like to point people to El Gueguense. An excellent medium-body smoke made by Foundation Cigars, one of my top five cigars. Harder to get is the Tabernacle by Foundation, that thing is insanely good!

A name mentioned already: RoMa Craft. Buy them. Buy every line.
dharbolt Offline
#10 Posted: Tue, Nov 15 2016, 6:15 PM EST
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sd72 wrote:
AVO, Padron, and the melanio are worth buyin. I'd skip the rest, the Davidoff are ok if the money is no big deal to you.


What is this? Bizarro world? Sdeve your being honest?

I agree though...
dharbolt Offline
#11 Posted: Tue, Nov 15 2016, 6:17 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
BTW, opinions on cigars are like ****, of course. Here's 11 years of cigar knowledge distilled to a couple drops:


3. You won't do it, but if you skip the entire CBID learning curve and just start out buying Cubans and/or a few boutique brands (e.g., Illusione, Tatuaje, RoMaCraft, Caldwell, Liga Privada, Dunbarton, and a few others) you will pay more per cigar, but your cigar enjoyment per dollar spent will be vastly increased. Took some of us years to fully grasp this, but, as Wheel tried to tell me nearly a decade ago, it is true.



This guy is smart.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#12 Posted: Tue, Nov 15 2016, 6:47 PM EST
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dharbolt wrote:
What is this? Bizarro world? Sdeve your being honest?

I agree though...

Prolly gots himself some legal pot...
KingoftheCove Offline
#13 Posted: Tue, Nov 15 2016, 7:25 PM EST
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OR of the Bueso Genesis, especially the Toro, was a superb cigar. Subsequent releases......not so much.

The only other cigar on your list I'm currently buying is the Undercrown Shade.......I really like these as morning cigars with coffee, usually on the weekends or when camping (which is when I'll have a morning cigar)....the Corona being the best vitola imo. It's the only Connecticut I've ever liked.
shaun341 Offline
#14 Posted: Tue, Nov 15 2016, 9:21 PM EST
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I enjoy the Diesel Uncut and the Aj Fernandez New World but then again I like most of AJ's blends which Diesel is also one of his lines. The Ave Maria Reconquista is solid(another AJ blend I think) but too big of a cigar for me, I like cigars around robusto or smaller generally. The AVO, Padron, and Oliva are the only others I would probably think about purchasing but can't say I have tried any of those particular blends that you mentioned.
Pudding Mittens Offline
#15 Posted: Tue, Nov 15 2016, 10:34 PM EST
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Hmhaines wrote:
Kentucky Fire Cure is iffy. The flavor is very smoky and slightly monotone. I enjoy the KFC a great deal when I'm in the mood for it. Some folks adore this line, some think it should he quarantined from other cigars.


Lots of folks probably think that Drew invented fire-cured cigars, but no, he did not, unless he's got a time machine and went back over 100 years. The American company Avanti has been cranking them out for well over a century now, and they're A WHOLE LOT cheaper than Drew's stuff, yet just as delicious IMO.

Look for their brands "DeNobili", "Petri" and "Parodi". They're all the exact same cigar coming off the same production line, just with different names on the packaging for marketing purposes in different regions (the company president verified that to me, face-to-face during a factory tour, so don't believe people who say they're different).

The "Avanti" brand is that same cigar with strong anisette flavoring brushed on, and the "RamRod" has bourbon flavoring brushed on. The flavorings are hand-brushed by.... I kid you not... little old ladies with paintbrushes (as I saw when I toured the factory... they asked me if I was single, because they had granddaughters who needed a husband!)

Don't listen to folks who laugh at these cigars or put them down as cheap crap. They're not. They're 100% USA tobacco from TN and KY, fire-cured, and delicious.

They're cheap, which makes them easy on the wallet to try!
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frankj1 Offline
#16 Posted: Tue, Nov 15 2016, 10:45 PM EST
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Parodis were the first cigars I ever smoked as a kid...always figured the incorrectly pronounced "pah roh' dee" (or parody) was the Seal of Approval on the box...the actual pic of a seal.

Think we covered this a few years ago.
bsadler Offline
#17 Posted: Tue, Nov 15 2016, 10:51 PM EST
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Oliva V melanio (especially the figurado) is one of my personal favorites.
I also recently tried the the undercrown shade and really enjoyed it.
Pudding Mittens Offline
#18 Posted: Tue, Nov 15 2016, 11:01 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
Parodis were the first cigars I ever smoked as a kid...always figured the incorrectly pronounced "pah roh' dee" (or parody) was the Seal of Approval on the box...the actual pic of a seal.

Think we covered this a few years ago.


The actual story of that seal is hilarious. The company president explained it, during the factory tour.

When founding the company, the family patriarch had just arrived in the US from Italy and didn't know English yet, so all the business stuff had to go through an interpreter.

The lawyer said that he needed a seal for his company. Due to a mis-translation, he thought he needed to have an actual picture of a seal, the animal.

They kept it, to this day. Funny!
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frankj1 Offline
#19 Posted: Tue, Nov 15 2016, 11:09 PM EST
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Pudding Mittens wrote:
The actual story of that seal is hilarious. The company president explained it, during the factory tour.

When founding the company, the family partriach had just arrived in the US from Italy and didn't know English yet, so all the business stuff had to go through an interpreter.

The lawyer said that he needed a seal for his company. Due to a mis-translation, he thought he needed to have an actual picture of a seal, the animal.

They kept it, to this day. Funny!
.

truly appreciate the story, though I thought I had a good explanation for the seal all these (nearly 50) years.
Just might seek out a pack!


almost said package!
Luke753 Offline
#20 Posted: Tue, Nov 15 2016, 11:11 PM EST
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I like the E.P. Carrillo Inch Maduro #64.
cameroon Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Nov 16 2016, 10:59 AM EST
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Welcome! As already pointed out, "Hank" and "Tank" are taken. Do you mind if we call you "Yanks The Crank"?
tamapatom Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Nov 17 2016, 7:00 AM EST
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There is a lot of debate on the Demasco but you cant go wrong with a Padron 64.
Hank_The_Tank Offline
#23 Posted: Thu, Nov 17 2016, 9:28 AM EST
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Thanks guys, appreciate the help. If you want to call me Yanks the Crank, I don't really care, but doubt I would answer to it...haha. Thanks for the info on Avanti, I will have to give them a try.
dstieger Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Nov 17 2016, 10:21 AM EST
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http://www.cigarbid.com/...164/Besto-Cheapo-Maduro


This thread still going, huh? I re-looked...still not much on your list above that I'd pay for (and I believe I've tried them all except maybe Fogata and . Above thread is pretty old, but I'll bet there's some listed there that can still be found ...

from your list:
EPC New Wave when sub $3/per
Ramon B Genesis when sub $2 per
UC Shade, but nowhere near retail
Davidoff Nic is the only other cigar that I might buy in a shpo if I was in a bind...but as to whether it is worth it ($15-19)....no

I won't list my super cheapo likes, because there's zero consensus on any cigars that can be had for under $2 (auction prices) except maybe one: Nic 3000 from a different auction house....that one has a pretty wide spectrum of fans, but its getting hard to be had for less than $40/20 anymore
SMOKEYOU Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Nov 17 2016, 11:05 AM EST
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KFC are worth a visit, when cheap. Imo.
NWStogie Offline
#26 Posted: Sun, Nov 20 2016, 5:35 PM EST
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Amati & HC Series (white) - Came in a samplers from the mothership. Bleah.
Mrs.Tank Offline
#27 Posted: Sun, Nov 27 2016, 11:37 PM EST
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ok, this is odd. Just to keep any questions at bay, this is not my Tank.

Welcome Not-A-Noob, from one Tank to another.
Hank_The_Tank Offline
#28 Posted: Mon, Nov 28 2016, 4:10 PM EST
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Haha. Yeah, my Mrs. Tank wouldn't ever be on this site. Haha
Burner02 Offline
#29 Posted: Mon, Nov 28 2016, 4:55 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:


3. You won't do it, but if you skip the entire CBID learning curve and just start out buying Cubans and/or a few boutique brands (e.g., Illusione, Tatuaje, RoMaCraft, Caldwell, Liga Privada, Dunbarton, and a few others) you will pay more per cigar, but your cigar enjoyment per dollar spent will be vastly increased. Took some of us years to fully grasp this, but, as Wheel tried to tell me nearly a decade ago, it is true.



^
This
Pudding Mittens Offline
#30 Posted: Mon, Nov 28 2016, 7:57 PM EST
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Mrs.Tank wrote:
ok, this is odd. Just to keep any questions at bay, this is not my Tank.

Welcome Not-A-Noob, from one Tank to another.


Are you referring to UFC legend Tank Abbott, who when asked what his favorite thing about the UFC was, replied, "I get to hurt people real bad and I don't have to go to jail!" ?

That guy was awesome to watch. Zero technique, he just rushed you and tried to beat the tar out of you, unskilled barfighter-style.
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Pudding Mittens Offline
#31 Posted: Mon, Nov 28 2016, 8:09 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
3. You won't do it, but if you skip the entire CBID learning curve and just start out buying Cubans and/or a few boutique brands (e.g., Illusione, Tatuaje, RoMaCraft, Caldwell, Liga Privada, Dunbarton, and a few others) you will pay more per cigar, but your cigar enjoyment per dollar spent will be vastly increased. Took some of us years to fully grasp this, but, as Wheel tried to tell me nearly a decade ago, it is true.


I disagree. This is correct for some people, but not for others.

Some people like certain much more affordable brands MORE than the high-end brands you list. I'm one of them, and so are many of my friends.

So, newbies, try a lot of stuff. Don't go straight for the high-end. You may end up there eventually, and that's fine, but first drop a modest amount of money trying some good-yet-affordable stuff first, because you might be VERY pleasantly surprised with something that you enjoy MORE, for a fraction of the price.

But, it all depends on you, personally, your tongue, nose, brain, etc.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#32 Posted: Mon, Nov 28 2016, 8:34 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:


3. You won't do it, but if you skip the entire CBID learning curve and just start out buying Cubans and/or a few boutique brands (e.g., Illusione, Tatuaje, RoMaCraft, Caldwell, Liga Privada, Dunbarton, and a few others) you will pay more per cigar, but your cigar enjoyment per dollar spent will be vastly increased. Took some of us years to fully grasp this, but, as Wheel tried to tell me nearly a decade ago, it is true.


Dave is wise. I wish someone had told me this in 1992. I would have saved a shiatload on crappy cigars and Cuban cigars of questionable origin.
Mrs.Tank Offline
#33 Posted: Mon, Nov 28 2016, 8:50 PM EST
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Pudding Mittens wrote:
Are you referring to UFC legend Tank Abbott, who when asked what his favorite thing about the UFC was, replied, "I get to hurt people real bad and I don't have to go to jail!" ?

That guy was awesome to watch. Zero technique, he just rushed you and tried to beat the tar out of you, unskilled barfighter-style.
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Nah... I am married (27+ years) to Tank71663, an FOG who doesn't post much anymore, but he stops in every now and again.
bgz Offline
#34 Posted: Mon, Nov 28 2016, 10:21 PM EST
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Pudding Mittens wrote:
I disagree. This is correct for some people, but not for others.

Some people like certain much more affordable brands MORE than the high-end brands you list. I'm one of them, and so are many of my friends.

So, newbies, try a lot of stuff. Don't go straight for the high-end. You may end up there eventually, and that's fine, but first drop a modest amount of money trying some good-yet-affordable stuff first, because you might be VERY pleasantly surprised with something that you enjoy MORE, for a fraction of the price.

But, it all depends on you, personally, your tongue, nose, brain, etc.


Well, if you don't mind sifting through a whole lot of sh1t first before you find stuff you like, then that's great advise!

At least you'll have plenty of troop fodder and mooch-aways.

I'm a bit hypocritical though, I've bought my share of crappy smokes, now I just buy things I know I'll like. If there's something I think I might like, I'll pick one up at the shpo so I don't have a whole box eating space... space is more valuable than crappy smokes.
Hank_The_Tank Offline
#35 Posted: Wed, Feb 22 2017, 10:19 AM EST
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cameroon wrote:
Welcome! As already pointed out, "Hank" and "Tank" are taken. Do you mind if we call you "Yanks The Crank"?


Couldn't remember if cameroon gave me a new name...had to dig this up. Can't believe nobody asked me about camping or waffles/pancakes, etc. Maybe you guys knew ahead of time I didn't deserve the royal treatment. ha
gummy jones Offline
#36 Posted: Wed, Feb 22 2017, 1:00 PM EST
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havent read through the whole list but i would say give the la gloria series r a try
if they price is right i have enjoyed them in the past

i am a fan of trying different things, especially with a group of guys, but i know that isnt for everyone
corey sellers Offline
#37 Posted: Wed, Feb 22 2017, 5:06 PM EST
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TRYING DIFFERENT THINGS with a group of guys where is ZRX


Just sayin

And it is not for everyone I will agree with you on that
qmech Offline
#38 Posted: Wed, Feb 22 2017, 6:36 PM EST
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Hank
Let me cover one not mentioned and a few others:
I think the Macanudo Vintage maduro with the metal bands are some of the best cigars that Macanudo has ever offered. They are fuller body /flavor than typical and a nice deal when one can grab a fiver or 12 on the cheap .
I enjoy AJ Fernandez products as well which includes brands like MOW, Ave Maria, Core LaPerla 1515, New World, Enclave, Oval etc.. I used to call him Pepin Jr. . Try a fiver or a box, look for brands he blends for others etc. and you might find a few jems on the cheap.

The other sincere recommendations are solid as well; EP Cariollo good consistent cigars, Pepin products sell themselves( My Father etc. or Tat. ) LaPalina , A. Flores etc..
qmech Offline
#39 Posted: Wed, Feb 22 2017, 6:43 PM EST
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Try the Flores y Rodriguez 10th anniversary for size..
Q
gummy jones Offline
#40 Posted: Thu, Feb 23 2017, 12:23 AM EST
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#37 well played
#39 yea that's a good one imo
Hillbillyjosh770 Offline
#41 Posted: Sat, May 13 2017, 1:59 PM EST
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Hank_The_Tank wrote:
Hey guys, new to the board. I have been enjoying cigars for about 8-10 years now and know a fair amount about cigars. The one thing I am struggling with is digging through all the new cigars that have come out in recent months/years. I was pouring through my CI catalog and realized how little I know about some of the cigars that are out. I am hoping you guys can give me some advice in regards to the below list. Some of them are cheap sticks and I am curious if they are worth trying or if they are junk. Some are ones I have never heard of and some are makers that I love but don't know their newer selection. I am generally a maduro guy, the darker and thicker ring gauge the better, however, I have enjoyed all sorts of sticks. Some of my favorites are the Padron 64th anniversary maduro, CAO Brazilia, RP Edge Maduro, CAO Vision, HdN Celebracion, Obsidian and the list could go on, so I won't bore you too much.

Amati
CAO Flathead 660
Don Rafael (whole line)
La Perla 1515
EP Carillo (whole line)
Ave Maria (whole line)
AJ Fernandez New World
AVO Fogata/Syncro
Bugatti (whole line)
RyJ Media Noche
Gurkha Beauty/Beast - I always see these with massive price reductions and curious if they are any good
Macanudo Vintage
Sancho Panza Triple Anejo
Ramon Bueso (whole line)
Oliva V Malanio
Padron Damaso
La Gloria Cubana Serie R Black Maduro
Davidoff - are they worth the price?
Punch Signature
Diesel Uncut
DE Kentucky Fire Cure
Undercrown Shade
HC Series

Sorry for the long list.


How many of these have you tried? What are your Thoughts?

Just heard package was delivered, list when I get home.
bgz Offline
#42 Posted: Sat, May 13 2017, 2:36 PM EST
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I've had 4 of the cigars on that list.

AJF New World... meh
Ramon bueso... liked them at first then meh
Melanio ... oh ya!
Davidoff ... Some of these are superb... kinda pricy though.

The only one on that list that I wouldn't mind trying is the Avos... I like Avos... maybe the damaso (not a big connecticut fan).

Rest of the list... meh, oh, have had ep carillos that were gifted to me too, but meh.
Hillbillyjosh770 Offline
#43 Posted: Sat, May 13 2017, 7:10 PM EST
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I agree AVOs are tasty. I was gifted a Fogata couple years back from Illinchaser.

I keep Melanio Maddies in my rotation.
Hillbillyjosh770 Offline
#44 Posted: Sat, May 13 2017, 9:14 PM EST
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Nope it was a Heritage Robusto.

Great Cigar, Right Thar'
tonygraz Offline
#45 Posted: Sun, May 14 2017, 10:24 AM EST
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sd72 wrote:
AVO, Padron, and the melanio are worth buyin. I'd skip the rest, the Davidoff are ok if the money is no big deal to you.


Kind of the standouts of the group. I haven't tried the Melanio yet- but much of what Oliva makes is good. Avo and Padron are good, but not good enough for my palate and the price is too steep. I'm rather skeptical of the Gurkha line - tho there are a few in my top ten cigars- forget the Beauty and I still haven't tried a Beast at the top of one humidor. La Perla seems to have lost any attraction it had including the 1515. Don Rafael has a few decent yard gars at best. Haven't tried the Sancho Anejo yet, but prior Sanchos don't leave me with high expectations. Buesos are not something I will be looking for more of. La Gloria, Punch, Partagas and several others of the old established brands no longer interest me. Tried a few HC types- not interested in trying ant more.

You will find that you like cigars some others do not and despise some cigars other say are great. The only way to find out for sure is to try them - just avoid the ones no one likes.
RobertHively Offline
#46 Posted: Sun, May 14 2017, 12:51 PM EST
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#45

So you don't like the Bueso line or you don't think they are worth the price? Just curious because I haven't heard of anyone disliking those cigars. Personally I think they are a great value if you can find them for around 2 dollars per...
Ruby Offline
#47 Posted: Sun, May 14 2017, 1:15 PM EST
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Hank out of the HC series the Habano is a good cigar the rest of the series I don't care for. One not on your list that''s not talked about is the Neya Classic and I like them very much.
SteveS Offline
#48 Posted: Sun, May 14 2017, 1:24 PM EST
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RobertHively wrote:
... I haven't heard of anyone disliking those cigars. Personally I think they are a great value ...

you can count me as one who's not all that enthusiastic about them ...
SteveS Offline
#49 Posted: Sun, May 14 2017, 1:26 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
...You will find that you like cigars some others do not and despise some cigars other say are great. The only way to find out for sure is to try them - just avoid the ones no one likes.


This is perhaps the best advise offered in this thread so far ...
kaszkiet Offline
#50 Posted: Sun, May 14 2017, 3:20 PM EST
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Like many other have mentioned, Melanio is one of my favorite sticks. But it's all about you. I do agree with dstieger's advice.
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