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After the election, will we get along with the other side?
zitotczito Offline
#1 Posted:
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This to say the least is a very divided election. Once it is over and no matter who wins, will we be able to get along with the other side and put differences aside?
ZRX1200 Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
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I told teedubya the reacharound was in the mail.
crgcpro Offline
#3 Posted:
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I think it will take a long time and maybe never to get the nation back together. Obama has divided the nation and put race relations back 50 years and if Hillary wins, that will continue.

If Trump wins, I think things will get better and the race baiting will start to go away but it will take a long time.
victor809 Offline
#4 Posted:
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Why does everyone think race relations were set back because of Obama?

Seems kind of nonsensical to me.
danmdevries Offline
#5 Posted:
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Thanks Obama
danmdevries Offline
#6 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Why does everyone think race relations were set back because of Obama?

Seems kind of nonsensical to me.


Ever since he been in office I've only had relations with white girls.

I blame Obama
victor809 Offline
#7 Posted:
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To be fair, you only having "relations" with white girls has probably really helped improve race relations in the US... :)
frankj1 Offline
#8 Posted:
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danmdevries wrote:
Ever since he been in office I've only had relations with white girls.

I blame Obama

The Donald says the same thing.
rfenst Offline
#9 Posted:
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No. The division has taken a couple decades or so to fester and will never be healed absent the one thing that would re-unite us- a war.
Speyside Offline
#10 Posted:
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No.
cacman Offline
#11 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
No. The division has taken a couple decades or so to fester and will never be healed absent

It will never change. It's too engrained and part of their culture.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#12 Posted:
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I think people on the far right and people on the far left have never gotten along, never will... they're too alike... people closer to the middle tend to get along with other people closer to the middle, even when they disagree...
jjanecka Offline
#13 Posted:
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If Hillary gets elected we'll be at war and we won't have to worry about this factionized crap. If Trump gets elected, he'll put an end to it too.
Gene363 Offline
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With the right leadership yes, if there are jobs and people are earning money they will feel good about themselves.

If we continue with the democrats and republicans continuously scaring folks to stay in power change will be slow. On the positive side, without the easy control of information it is much more difficult for the government or others to keep the public in the dark.
DrafterX Offline
#15 Posted:
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Life isn't easy from the singular side..
Down in the hole some emotions are hard to hide... Whistle
frankj1 Offline
#16 Posted:
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yes to 12 and 14
deadeyedick Offline
#17 Posted:
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No. No matter who gets elected the other side will spend the next four years blaming everything on the current administration.

That is built in the two party system and the deep divide between those who believe in the constitution as the law of the land and those who think it means whatever they want it to mean.
DrafterX Offline
#18 Posted:
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I'll always like Brewha tho.... Beer
dstieger Offline
#19 Posted:
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Where are the most serious fault lines?

Economic?
Political?
Religious?
Length of time family has been in this country?
Gender?
IQ? :)

Not that any of those are completely separate from any of the others...but I think they are somewhat unique from each other. However, the political divide more than the others is mostly dependent on factors of the other divides. If the divide is huge and bad and portends nasty future stuff...well, maybe we should be working harder on the other divisions. Why are 90% of the arguments about anything above simply arguments that appeal to those who already think the way the speaker does? What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding?
TMCTLT Offline
#20 Posted:
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Gene363 wrote:
With the right leadership yes, if there are jobs and people are earning money they will feel good about themselves.

If we continue with the democrats and republicans continuously scaring folks to stay in power change will be slow. On the positive side, without the easy control of information it is much more difficult for the government or others to keep the public in the dark.



True, which is why they want ultimate control of the internet ( where people now go for " truth and honesty " since we cannot count on virtually ANY of the lamestream media outlets who're WHORES to the money / power
Just Relax Offline
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On a personal level I get along with people that vote differently than me. Why do we have to set the other side as evil and label them as somebody we can't have a beer or smoke with? Most us us are good guys that I'd rather sit down and have a beer with regardless of party beliefs than most politician scum that I agree with politically but have no soul so can't be fun to hang with.

On a political level of disagreement as a whole I can only hope that this is the tipping point of extreme viewpoints being what decides elections. We need moderate candidates who can cross lines to make things happen. I tend to swing moderate republican but don't understand republicans that think no democrat has ever come up with a good idea.

I think it's time for the guys in the middle to say gay marriage doesn't really effect me but we need welfare reform to come together with the guys that want gay marriage but also agree that welfare is crazy right now and say we want a candidate that can support both issues. (as a very brief example)
dstieger Offline
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Just Relax wrote:


I think it's time for the guys in the middle to say gay marriage doesn't really effect me but we need welfare reform to come together with the guys that want gay marriage but also agree that welfare is crazy right now and say we want a candidate that can support both issues. (as a very brief example)


Thank you for the flashback. I hadn't thought about my freshman comp prof in years.....coincidentally, she had a minor heart attack 11 minutes ago.
dstieger Offline
#23 Posted:
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Sorry, JR. I actually agree with everything you wrote....just took me a while
Gene363 Offline
#24 Posted:
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Just Relax wrote:
On a personal level I get along with people that vote differently than me. Why do we have to set the other side as evil and label them as somebody we can't have a beer or smoke with? Most us us are good guys that I'd rather sit down and have a beer with regardless of party beliefs than most politician scum that I agree with politically but have no soul so can't be fun to hang with.

On a political level of disagreement as a whole I can only hope that this is the tipping point of extreme viewpoints being what decides elections. We need moderate candidates who can cross lines to make things happen. I tend to swing moderate republican but don't understand republicans that think no democrat has ever come up with a good idea.

I think it's time for the guys in the middle to say gay marriage doesn't really effect me but we need welfare reform to come together with the guys that want gay marriage but also agree that welfare is crazy right now and say we want a candidate that can support both issues. (as a very brief example)


Therein lays the fallacy, when both parties agree the taxpayers are certain to take it in the shorts. What we need is leadership that recognizes the government and more laws is not the answer to all problems.

As for gay marriage, there is no good reason for anyone be required to buy a license to get married. Define civil union contractural requirements if you must. Marriage, as in a church, is up to the doctrine of the church, it should not be defined by the government. FWIW, I couldn't care less if gays want to marry, just don't use the government club to bludgeon people into acceptacnce.
DrafterX Offline
#25 Posted:
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homophobe... Mellow
Just Relax Offline
#26 Posted:
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Gene on my phone app so can't quote but I agree with you. We do need less laws which is why I agree in principle with most of the libertarian movement. Government does need to regulate certain things but as long as the politicians are bought by those they need to regulate the common people will lose out.

Gay marriage was just a hot button topic that was an easy example of a dividing issue. If you are a same sex couple you only have one choice of a vote regardless of your economic views. I see the point of calling it something else but whatever it is that issue has a large segment of voters who are mostly financially well off and would side economically with republicans but will vote decomcratic because of the one thing that matters exponentially more to them than anything else.

I will point out that I am a straight man with 4 kids from the same woman that I've been with for 17 years.

What I'm saying is that there won't be a good old US as we know it much longer if we don't get out of the economic state we are in. Then social issues won't matter to anyone anyway.
danmdevries Offline
#27 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
To be fair, you only having "relations" with white girls has probably really helped improve race relations in the US... :)


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