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Dilbert Creator, Scott Adams on the Election
Gene363 Offline
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Scott Adams is a student of persuasion and discusses the election.

Alex Jones interviews Scott Adams: https://youtu.be/NNJS8Ihctbc

Just do your best to ignore Jones and listen to Scott Adams' insight.

Scott Adams predicts Trump will win in a landslide.
Burner02 Offline
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Better than Hilldog.
DrafterX Offline
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It appears even her strongest and most faithful supporters are starting to realize she's F'd in da head... Mellow
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Interesting guy.
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i do my best not to care about what celebrities think
even when they agree with me
Gene363 Offline
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gummy jones wrote:
i do my best not to care about what celebrities think
even when they agree with me


I hear you, however he is the creator of the Dilbert cartoon which, while very funny and scary close to reality my former line of work. He is a pretty intelligent guy about as far as you can get from the majority of air headed Hollywood types
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don't get me wrong, i agree it is a breath of fresh air compared to the normal save the animals/planets/thugs/palestinians/etc rhetoric hollywood spews
fiddler898 Offline
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I get all my news from Doonesbury & Mallard Filmore.
DrafterX Offline
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Laugh
frankj1 Offline
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watched about 8 minutes, may revisit.
I wasn't get the vibe that Adams was a Trump supporter as much as he was describing the persuasive voodoo Trump uses.
Gene363 Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
watched about 8 minutes, may revisit.
I wasn't get the vibe that Adams was a Trump supporter as much as he was describing the persuasive voodoo Trump uses.


True and again, just ignore Alex Jones.
frankj1 Offline
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seen his name a zillion times but your link was my intro to him...kind of tough to listen to him, but some of that was his voice and style.

I have to admit that I do try to hear what the right is saying (one can always learn, it's why I am still here) but I don't know if I can consider him
a source. I've taken to heart more stuff from some of youse guys than I would from him.
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DrafterX wrote:
It appears even her strongest and most faithful supporters are starting to realize she's F'd in da head... Mellow

That's cause you only watch Fox and stuff......
Speyside Offline
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So my take on this is cartoonists are now knowledgeable political commentators. What's wrong with this picture?
Gene363 Offline
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Speyside wrote:
So my take on this is cartoonists are now knowledgeable political commentators. What's wrong with this picture?


No, not really, he is commenting on, as Frank called it, " persuasive voodoo" that the candidates use to persuade people to vote for them.
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Gene363 wrote:
No, not really, he is commenting on, as Frank called it, " persuasive voodoo" that the candidates use to persuade people to vote for them.

exactly. he is noting the expertise with which Trump has maneuvered and manipulated much of the populace...much like the hypnotist that Adams claims to be.

I find that an interesting conversation without the specific political positions attached.
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frankj1 wrote:
exactly. he is noting the expertise with which Trump has maneuvered and manipulated much of the populace...much like the hypnotist that Adams claims to be.

I find that an interesting conversation without the specific political positions attached.


He goes into more detail about how both Trump and Hillary are attempting to persuade voters in his post, How Persuaders See the World.

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/147595892021/how-persuaders-see-the-world

This is an interesting snippet:

Quote:
Persuaders know that most people are word-thinkers, so a big part of political persuasion involves defining people to be in or out of a certain category. This creates a substitute for thinking that the public likes. It makes them feel as if they used data and reason to form opinions.

For example, Trump is trying to frame the election as Americans versus outsiders. To Trump, you’re either in the American category or you’re a threat to those who are, in terms of money or violence. You will note that Trump has avoided calling Clinton liberal. That category lost its power. But Trump has defined a “crooked insider” category for Clinton and makes sure you know she’s in it.

Clinton has avoided calling Trump conservative, because the label wouldn’t fit. Even conservatives have a hard time putting Trump in that category. But if the alternative is Clinton, conservatives will hold their nose and accept him in their group.

Clinton’s strategy – which has worked well – is to put Trump in the boxes that are labelled sexist, racist, science-denying, and Hitler. That’s too many boxes for the purposes of good persuasion. Persuasion requires simplicity. So team Clinton tried to create an overarching category called “hate,” in order to assign Trump to it. They even used the “love trumps hate” slogan. Trump has tried to get out of the hate box by talking about love and doing a lot of hugging.

The most annoying strategy of the word-thinkers and their master persuaders involves defining a group by its worst members. Democrats label Republicans as racists because some Republicans are. Republicans label Democrats as useless and greedy because some of them are. The facts are not important.

Speyside Offline
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My bad, finally read the article, very interesting.
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like it or not, I am probably a word thinker and therefore influenced politically, socially and whatever other ways professional persuaders seek to do...like advertisers of products.
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I guess I'm gonna have to read it.. snippet was interesting.. Think
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