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Abrignac Online
#1 Posted: Wed, May 8 2024, 5:00 PM EST
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MTG filed a motion that requires a vote within 48 hours to vacate the speaker.

Suppose Hakim was feinting when he said the Democrats would vote to keep Johnson? He gets removed and it takes another week or so to fill the speakership?

Real smart. Nothing like telling the voters that the Republicans are incapable of governing 6 months before the elections.

What a moron.
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#2 Posted: Wed, May 8 2024, 5:04 PM EST
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Thanks for reminding me to donate to her again.
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#3 Posted: Wed, May 8 2024, 5:07 PM EST
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I imagine the Democrats were hoping for this. Republicans again look like fractured losers no matter how this plays out. I assume she thinks she has the votes to oust him.
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#4 Posted: Wed, May 8 2024, 5:19 PM EST
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Fractured losers beats being in lockstep to ruin the country.
ZRX1200 Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, May 8 2024, 5:40 PM EST
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Do you not think it odd that the Republicans nominate a guy who’s never chaired a committee and was a member of the Freedom Caucus and the Democrats expressed no concern?

https://youtu.be/9Cd1NPoByGs?si=QM3nrmdhHiWj4Wah
MaduroJorge Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, May 8 2024, 6:15 PM EST
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iMTG is insane or compromised. Should be out campaigning with Trump.
Bad timing calling to oust the most prominent elected Republican, before the fall Election. If Hakeem pulls out
Republicans risk losing the razor thin House majority and who knows what new Trump Witch Hunt a Democrat Congress
will start.
Plus all the Biden corruption investigations will come to a screeching halt!!
Abrignac Online
#7 Posted: Wed, May 8 2024, 6:22 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Fractured losers beats being in lockstep to ruin the country.


Here is a very possible outcome.

At the moment the Republicans hold a 4 seat majority. Of that majority 3 have announced their intent to resign prior to the November elections citing unhappiness in the direction of the caucus. Suppose they simply don’t show up the day a new speaker is to be elected if the speakership is vacated. It’s certainly one way to say FU to the likes of MTG and others like her. Suppose Johnson and one other Republican also fails to show up for the vote. You’ll have 213 Democrats voting for Jeffries and 212 Republicans voting it doesn’t matter who because Jeffries is elected Speaker.

Or better yet the Republicans spend a couple weeks running who knows how many candidates because none of them can get elected. Voters will remember that absurdity come November when every single member of the House has to run for re-election. Perhaps they send a majority of Democrats to the House? What then? What was accomplished? But worse still is nothing the Republicans who led the revolt gets passed because they aren’t in the majority.

But I guess 150% of nothing is better than 25-50% of something. How do I arrive at 150% of nothing? Easy. If the Democrats gain the majority in the House then it’s possible that they will push the country even further to the left. But hey that’s ok because at least they stood on principle. Didn’t get a damn thing done but they can sit around holding their desks because they were principled.

Change always happens incrementally but some people just don’t get it.
rfenst Online
#8 Posted: Wed, May 8 2024, 6:31 PM EST
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MaduroJorge wrote:
iMTG is insane or compromised...
Bad timing calling to oust the most prominent elected Republican, before the fall Election. ...
Plus all the Biden corruption investigations will come to a screeching halt!!

MTG has psychological or psychiatric problems.
R's are still dysfunctional.
I haven't seen anything from the committee investigating Joe in quite some time now.
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#9 Posted: Wed, May 8 2024, 7:57 PM EST
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It's sabotage. .A deep state swamp agency must have some dirt on her, and in exchange for her creating this chaos. they let her walk.
Turn over the House to Dem who will revive Jan 6 and surely move to make Trump ineligible to run.

I agree the R's look like 5th graders.
Abrignac Online
#10 Posted: Thu, May 9 2024, 8:07 AM EST
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So right after MTG filed her motion Scalise called for a vote to squash it. Fortunately his motion carried by a vote of 359-33. So Johnson is still the Speaker.

But there are a few take aways from this.

1) MTG listed one of her reasons for filing her motion was because Johnson worked with the Democrats to pass a spending bill. That’s ironic because Democrats out voted Republicans in support of her motion by 2.91:1. Only 11 Republicans cast votes for her motion, yet they were joined by 32 Democrats. So it’s safe to say she had more Democrats as a percentage supporting her motion than Johnson had on the spending bill.

2) About that pesky spending bill, MTG decried it for all it’s pork barrel spending. Yet she herself inserted over a dozen line item earmarks for her own district. So much for being principled. Unless being principled means do as I say, not as I do.

3) Obviously principles had zero to do with her motion. It was nothing more than an attempt to grandstand which In reality painted her as a village idiot. Her motion accomplished nothing in terms of her rhetoric.

4) In terms of representing her district she did her constituents a great disservice. The game of politics is much like the game of thrones. If you step off the reservation you better win and win decisively. Otherwise you’ll lose your head. Moving forward she has an enormous target on her back that current party leadership will take every opportunity to hit. Needless to say any legislation she sponsors that could directly benefit her district wouldn’t even get a vote in committee much less on the floor.

Ask Garrett Graves what happens when an attempt to undermine your party’s leadership fails. Last year he got caught up trying to manipulate Scalise’s attempt at the Speakership after McCarthy was ousted. His safely Republican district was redrawn into a widely gerrymandered minority district. His only hope at reelection now is for the courts to toss the lastest map and put him in a red district.

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#11 Posted: Thu, May 9 2024, 8:44 AM EST
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When the democrats save a republican speakerphone you know something is UP...
HAKEEM BE PLOTTING
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#12 Posted: Thu, May 9 2024, 8:44 AM EST
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Thankfully, less than a dozen followed the nutjob in taking the general election suicide pill.

Some of you righties must secretly want a Biden reelection so you can pizs and moan four more years, as you cheer for contnued and enhanced Republican divisions in the runup.


MTG the truest of Trump apostles. While at the same time Trump didn't want her to do it.

Sooooo Trumpers. Are you backing Trump or MTG?
rfenst Online
#13 Posted: Thu, May 9 2024, 8:46 AM EST
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MaduroJorge wrote:
It's sabotage. .A deep state swamp agency must have some dirt on her, and in exchange for her creating this chaos. they let her walk.
Turn over the House to Dem who will revive Jan 6 and surely move to make Trump ineligible to run.

I agree the R's look like 5th graders.

If someone "must have dirt on," she appears not to care less.
I'll stick with my original Dx.
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#14 Posted: Thu, May 9 2024, 10:28 AM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
Thankfully, less than a dozen followed the nutjob in taking the general election suicide pill.

Some of you righties must secretly want a Biden reelection so you can pizs and moan four more years, as you cheer for contnued and enhanced Republican divisions in the runup.


MTG the truest of Trump apostles. While at the same time Trump didn't want her to do it.

Sooooo Trumpers. Are you backing Trump or MTG?


For quite some time I’ve felt the traditional Republicans are perfectly fine losing honorably and then being the opposition party. When you’re the party in charge you actually need to fix stuff like heading off a national bankruptcy.
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#15 Posted: Thu, May 9 2024, 11:53 AM EST
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I realize this is a public discussion forum, but still, the ill informed opinions presented as fact here are hilarious.
Abrignac Online
#16 Posted: Thu, May 9 2024, 1:17 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
For quite some time I’ve felt the traditional Republicans are perfectly fine losing honorably and then being the opposition party. When you’re the party in charge you actually need to fix stuff like heading off a national bankruptcy.


Amazing how so few words can throughly and accurately describe a problem.
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#17 Posted: Thu, May 9 2024, 1:42 PM EST
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jeebling wrote:
I realize this is a public discussion forum, but still, the ill informed opinions presented as fact here are hilarious.


Sometimes opinions are facts in the minds of sheep. Unfortunately this can and does describe both sides.
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#18 Posted: Thu, May 9 2024, 3:18 PM EST
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JGRAZ, absolutely. And describes me at times as well. I’m really trying not to do that though. Progress.
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#19 Posted: Thu, May 9 2024, 4:07 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Do you not think it odd that the Republicans nominate a guy who’s never chaired a committee and was a member of the Freedom Caucus and the Democrats expressed no concern?

https://youtu.be/9Cd1NPoByGs?si=QM3nrmdhHiWj4Wah


I wish I had a smart congressman like that to represent me.
I've never been represented.

The congressman for my district resigned recently to take a job as the president of a theater.
They say he was kinda ghey because he had weird hair and a high voice.
I used to know a girl that worked for that theater and she said all the actors were ghey, so that's probably why he took the job there.

So we had a special election a couple of weeks ago to elect a new congressman.
Duhmacracy elected another Marxist I say he's a Marxist because when he originally ran for the state senate, I thought Karl Marx was the ghostwriter of his campaign mumbo jumbo.

So this time the essence of his congressional campaign was "taking on the MAGA extremists in Washington" and codifying the right to an abortion into federal law, probably anytime anywhere. That was about it. He's one of those fake Catholics like Biden and Pelosi.

Duhmacracy is so dumb.
HockeyDad Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, May 9 2024, 6:50 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
I wish I had a smart congressman like that to represent me.
I've never been represented.

The congressman for my district resigned recently to take a job as the president of a theater.
They say he was kinda ghey because he had weird hair and a high voice.
I used to know a girl that worked for that theater and she said all the actors were ghey, so that's probably why he took the job there.

So we had a special election a couple of weeks ago to elect a new congressman.
Duhmacracy elected another Marxist I say he's a Marxist because when he originally ran for the state senate, I thought Karl Marx was the ghostwriter of his campaign mumbo jumbo.

So this time the essence of his congressional campaign was "taking on the MAGA extremists in Washington" and codifying the right to an abortion into federal law, probably anytime anywhere. That was about it. He's one of those fake Catholics like Biden and Pelosi.

Duhmacracy is so dumb.




Hold my beer….
My daughter’s US Rep is AOC.
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#21 Posted: Thu, May 9 2024, 7:15 PM EST
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I don't have a rep rep'n for me ever since I became the Prez and CEO of Hivelyland Inc, a 44 acre independent enclave with an "Army of One."

TW and I have been lookin at the models and our investment advice for Hivelyland is to go long on sweet corn. PM me if you want in on the action.

Plus I'm selling carbon credits from that hollow I don't use, if anyone is interested.
Abrignac Online
#22 Posted: Thu, May 9 2024, 8:05 PM EST
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RobertHively wrote:
I don't have a rep rep'n for me ever since I became the Prez and CEO of Hivelyland Inc, a 44 acre independent enclave with an "Army of One."

TW and I have been lookin at the models and our investment advice for Hivelyland is to go long on sweet corn. PM me if you want in on the action.

Plus I'm selling carbon credits from that hollow I don't use, if anyone is interested.


I might need to short corn futures seeing how there will be a glut once your crop is harvested.
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#23 Posted: Thu, May 9 2024, 9:28 PM EST
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had an ear of corn with suppah tonight.
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#24 Posted: Fri, May 10 2024, 7:46 AM EST
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I could sure go for a few ears about now... Mellow


Wtf are they called ears..?? Think
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#25 Posted: Fri, May 10 2024, 8:26 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
For quite some time I’ve felt the traditional Republicans are perfectly fine losing honorably and then being the opposition party. When you’re the party in charge you actually need to fix stuff like heading off a national bankruptcy.


Explain to me this.

Is control of the White House so insignificant, at a time when fentynyl, illegals, crime, inflation, weakness on the world stage and domestically, that "Republicans" would rather have a 50/50 shot at beating Weekend At Bernies, with the most seriously flawed candite running?

As his Hush Trial rolls along, on top of the sexual assault conviction, and shaming the victim, people who fully put Christ ahead of politicians are beginning to get off of the Trump Train. There is nothing about Trump that exaults Christian principles.

Maybe the number of Real Christians is smaller than I estimate.

If the elephants choose literally, any other candidate in the primaries. They win easily.

If Trump loses, it will be an Innoble (and embarassing) Loss.

Trump is the least electable. So why put all of your eggs in the least stable of baskets? Explain the Value Proposition.
jeebling Offline
#26 Posted: Fri, May 10 2024, 10:42 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I could sure go for a few ears about now... Mellow


Wtf are they called ears..?? Think


Because the ear wigs live there?
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#27 Posted: Fri, May 10 2024, 8:04 PM EST
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8, Trump is the only R who could lose to Biden. Biden is the only D who could lose to Trump. Have we really ever seen anything like this? When Trump won, I thought maybe he could shake out some of the rats. When Biden won, I thought maybe he really is a moderate. Now we know exactly what both of them are. It appears they are both working really hard at losing.
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#28 Posted: Sat, May 11 2024, 4:35 PM EST
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Speyside2 wrote:
It appears they are both working really hard at losing.

No wonder. Neither is a winner.
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#29 Posted: Sun, May 12 2024, 8:08 PM EST
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The sad thing is I cannot think of anyone on either side I would want to vote for.
Abrignac Online
#30 Posted: Thu, May 16 2024, 9:00 AM EST
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Speyside2 wrote:
The sad thing is I cannot think of anyone on either side I would want to vote for.


Couldn’t agree more.
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